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Har kuni DEHB bilan kurashayotgan bolalarmi?

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Xudoning allergiyasi davom etishni qiyinlashtirdi
do'stlari bilan. Allergik reaktsiyalar

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tasodifiy oziq-ovqat ta'siridan.

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O'rtacha va og'ir ekzema. Zig'ir
toshbaqa kasalligi. Romatoid artrit.

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Oziq-ovqat allergiyalari.

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Allergiya. Soqchilik. Astma.

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Aniq. Bir oz.

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Biz hozir dunyodagi eng kasal mamlakatmiz
dunyo.

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Amerikalik bolalarning sog'lig'i yomon
inqiroz.

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Surunkali kasalliklarning katta o'sishi
17 va undan kichik bolalar. 40% dan ortiq

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Amerikalik bolalar hozirda kamida bittasi bor
surunkali sog'liq holati.

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Romatoid kabi otoimmün kasallik
artrit, balog'atga etmagan qandli diabet, qizil yuguruk,

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Crohn kasalligi, bularning barchasi IBS.

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Menda ekzema, astma, allergiya bor edi,

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oshqozon muammolari.

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Bu meni o'ziga jalb qiladigan narsa. Shunchaki
bir necha o'n yillar oldin, 10 000dan bittasi

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bolalarda autizm bor edi. Bugun bu...

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31da bitta.

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ADD, DEHB, nutq, til, tics kabi,
Tourette sindromi, narkolepsiya, uyqu

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buzilishlar, ASD, autizm.

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Dunyoda bularning iloji yo'q
kasallanishning tez o'sishi turi

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kasallik genetik bo'lishi mumkin. Genetika
o'zgarish avlodlar, asrlar davom etadi

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o'ynang. Bizning bolalarimizga nima sabab bo'lmoqda
bu avlodning juda surunkali bo'lishi

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kasalmi? Nima bo'lyapti?

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Amerika dunyodagi eng kasal davlatdir
sanoatlashgan dunyo.

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Endi bizning 54% dan ortig'imiz ishoniladi
bolalarda surunkali kasallik bor, yoki a

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nevrologik kasallik yoki otoimmün
kasallik.

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Bu avvalgi davrdagi atigi 12,8 foizdan ko'p
1980-yillar. Taxminan 40 yil ichida biz buni ko'rdik

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inson salomatligining eng katta pasayishi
hech qachon qayd etilgan.

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Agar sizga aytsam nima bo'ladi?

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Yorug'lik keltirishi mumkin bo'lgan tadqiqot mavjud
bu surunkali kasallik epidemiyasi bo'yicha, lekin yo'q

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yirik tibbiyot muassasasi tayyor bo'lib tuyuldi
buni qilish. Agar borligini aytsam-chi?

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olib borish uchun jasur bir olim
bu tadqiqot?

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O'qish paytida shuni aytsam-chi?
tugatildi, ya'ni

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olim uni nashr etishdan juda qo'rqdimi?
Siz nima qilgan bo'lardingiz?

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Balki siz ham men qilgan ishimni qilasiz. oldim
yashirin kameralar va yozib olish uskunalari.

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Va men undan sababini so'rash uchun bordim.

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Rahmat. Juda xush kelibsiz.

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Men sizga video ko'rsatmoqchiman.

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Xop. Menga sizning munosabatingiz qiziq
bunga. Xop.

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Shunchaki bu yerda o'ynashni bosingmi?

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Ha.

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Davom eting va u erda o'ynash tugmasini bosing.

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Eng hayratlanarli narsa nima edi?
Chunki, aytmoqchimanki...

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Men nima ko'rganimni bilaman. Yo'q, va men o'yladim
muhim edi.

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Bu muhim ma'lumot, chunki u
o'rtasidagi farqni ko'rsatdi

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guruhlar. Bizda jiddiy muammolar bor.

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Men aslida bunga qo'shilaman. Agar qila olmasam
bu tadqiqotni olib tashlang, keyin umid nima

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kelajakda hamma narsa uchun bormi?

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Bu to'g'ri emas, demoqchi emasman
qilinadigan narsa. Bu to'g'ri ish,

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lekin men shunchaki xohlamayman. Aytmoqchimanki,
aniq, kabi, albatta, shaxsiy.

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Kasal. Bu haqiqatan ham kasal.

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Shunga o'xshash narsalarni nashr qilish, shunday bo'lishi mumkin
yaxshi.

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nafaqaga chiqsam, men tugatgan bo'lardim. Xo'sh, bu kim edi
yigit?

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Zervos, ehtimol, ishini yo'qotadi
bu ustidan.

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Bilasizmi, men olishdan oldin o'ylayapman
yashirin kameralar va o'quv xonasiga

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va doktor Zervos va bularning barchasi, nima uchun emas
Biz uni qanday qilib qaytarishga olib boramiz

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bu aslida boshlandimi?

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Men tibbiy jurnalist bo'lganman
deyarli 20 yil. Mening birinchi 10 yilim

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CBS da edi.

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Va oxirgi sakkiz yil ichida men shunday bo'ldim
Mening Internet yangiliklar ko'rsatuvim The High deb nomlangan

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Tel. Xayrli tong, xayrli kun, xayrli
kechqurun, qayerda bo'lsangiz ham. Lekin

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kareramdagi eng katta o'zgarish bo'ldi
haqida hujjatli film suratga olganimda

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Vaxxed deb nomlangan emlashlar. Va da
ushbu hujjatli filmning markazi a

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CDC ning ma'lumot tarqatuvchisi Dr.
Uilyam Tompson.

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U 2015 yilda paydo bo'lgan va shunday degan edi
ular ilmiy firibgarlik qilishardi

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vaktsina xavfsizligi tadqiqotlari.

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Xo'sh, bu film portladi va a bo'ldi
butun dunyo bo'ylab sensatsiya, asosan, chunki biz

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bilan boshlab, juda yomon matbuot bor
Tribeca filmidan chiqarib yuborilmoqda

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Festival. Ishga kirishish qarori a
vaktsinalar haqida bahsli hujjatli film

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a markazida Robert De Niro bor
katta ekranga qarshi tebranish.

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Bugun kechqurun Robert De kinofestivali
Niro munozarali bo'lgan Under Fire filmini boshladi

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ko'pchilik tomonidan tavsiflangan yangi film
anti-vaktsina. Menimcha, kino

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odamlar ko'rishi kerak bo'lgan narsa. U yerda
Men to'liq javob qilmaganman

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tadqiq qilingan. Men haqiqatni bilmoqchiman va
Men vaksinaga qarshi emasman. Men xavfsiz istayman

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vaktsinalar.

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Prodyuser Del Bigtree bekor qilishni aytadi
skrining bostirishga tengdir

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haqiqat.

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Men qanday bosimni tasavvur qila olmayman
pastga tushdi, bu ularni tortib olishga majbur qiladi

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ular ortda qolgani aniq bo'lgan film
boshlanishi. dan xabar

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tibbiyot hamjamiyati aniq. Bu bitta
o'sha ilmiy savollar qaerda

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fan har qanday javob berdi.

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Vax eng ko'plardan biri bo'ldi
tarixdagi bahsli hujjatli filmlar.

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Va shu sababli, chiziqlar bor edi
biz borgan hamma joyda blokdan pastga. Qarang

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orqamdagi bu olomonga. Buni qarang
chiziq. Bu davom etadi va davom etadi. Aslida,

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biz ekranga tushgan birinchi kunimiz
Nyu-Yorkdagi Anjelika kino markazi, I

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nega bu gigant borligini bilmoqchi edim
blokdan pastga chiziq. Bular nima

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odamlar bu yerdami?

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Bilasizmi, har bir ota-ona yoki kimdir,
Agar sizning oila a'zolaringiz autizm bilan kasallangan bo'lsa,

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Iltimos, hozir o'rningizdan turasizmi? qilardim
ko'rishni yoqtiradi.

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Xonaning to'rtdan uch qismi o'rnidan turdi. I
Havo endigina kelgandek his qilganimni eslang

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xonadan chiqib ketdi. Gapirdagigan gapim yo'q
shuncha odam bor edi

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bu muammodan aziyat chekmoqda.

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Oxir-oqibat men uchinchi savolni berdim
skrininglar kuniga, haftasiga besh kun, uchun

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butun yil. Va har safar,
xonaning to'rtdan uch qismi o'rnidan turdi. I

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nimagadir qoqilib qolganimni tushundim
mutlaqo massiv.

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Ko'rsatuvlardan so'ng jarohatlanganlarning ota-onalari
bolalar o'zlarini aytishga ilhomlantirdilar

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hikoyalar. Biz videokameralarni o'rnatdik va
hamma bilan suhbatlasha boshladi

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gaplashmoqchi edi.

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Va men kashf qilgan narsa shunchaki emas edi
autizm va bu faqat MMR emas edi

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vaktsina. Vaktsina okeani bor edi
jarohat edi va bu haqda hech kim gapirmadi.

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Doktor, yaxshi, xohlaysizmi, deydi
grippga qarshi emlash?

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Men buni hozir qila olaman deb o'yladim. I
men poliomielit qildim. Ular unga berishdi

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V-vax. U ikki oylik zarba oldi.

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MMR vaktsinasi.

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O'sha kuni ertalab soat 10.30 ga kelib, u kamonga tushdi
uning orqa,

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uning dumbalarini bosish.

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Yig'layman deb o'ylamagandim.

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O'sha oqshom biz kasalxonada edik.

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106 daraja isitma bilan u boshlandi
snaryadli qusish. U buni qila boshladi

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baland ovozda qichqiriq.

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Xuddi o'sha paytdagi qon qotib qolgandek
qichqiriq boshlandi. uchun yotmadim

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10 oy to'g'ridan-to'g'ri, chunki u shunday qiladi
qusish va asfiksiya. U qusadi va

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asfiksiyaga uchradi va u o'sha erda yotardi
u uxlab yotganida.

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Va u bo'g'ilib qolardi. Bizda bo'lganida
bu emlash, u barcha tilini yo'qotdi.

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U shunchaki gapirishni to'xtatdi. U emas edi
gapirish. U emizishni xohlamadi.

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U umuman gapirmaslikka ketdi. U edi
motordan tashqari, juda yaxshi rivojlanmoqda

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ko'nikmalar. Uning surunkali allergiyasi bor. An
ekzema toshmasi.

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Urug'li protein intralit sindromi.

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U hech narsa yeya olmadi
glisemik indeks juda yuqori edi.

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Unda GI belgilari paydo bo'la boshladi. Ichak
yallig'lanish.

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Surunkali horlama.

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Uyqu apneasi.

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Tutqichga o'xshash faoliyat.

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Uyqu apneasi.

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U sizning qo'lingizda vafot etdi.

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Ha. Men uni emlashni davom ettiraman va
uni yomonlashtiring va qalinroq qiling.

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Aybdorlik, bu juda og'ir.

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Qizimni o'ldirishdi.

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Shubhasiz, bu kattaroq muammo edi
kimdir tushundi.

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Ammo alohida intervyu bor edi
qilganimiz.

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Bu haqiqatan ham mening nuqtai nazarimni o'zgartirdi
abadiy.

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Kolton 13 yoshli sog'lom, baquvvat bola edi
yigit. U qilish kerak bo'lgan hamma narsani yaxshi ko'rardi

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adrenalin shovqini bilan.

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Motokross uning ishtiyoqi edi.

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Do‘xtir: “Hoy, u yoshda ekan
HPV vaktsinasini olishingiz kerak. Men aytdim:

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yaxshi. Shunday qilib, u boshqarildi
vaktsina.

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Va keyin bu uning oxirgi kuni
o'sha katta bola velosipedini mining.

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va o'sha kuni u uyga keldi, u edi
ko'ngil aynishi, chindan ham og'riqli his qila boshlaydi

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bo'yin. U hali ham tashqariga chiqishni xohlamadi
yotoq. Men shunchaki o'yladim, odam, sen shunchaki

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haqiqatan ham zaif va charchagan.

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Va o'sha kuni kechqurun u olish uchun o'tirdi
bir ichimlik suv, u shunchaki orqaga qaytdi,

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va uning boshi shunchaki yostiqqa tegdi va men
ketdi,

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Kolton, siz shol bo'lasizmi?

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Ular darhol uni pastga olib ketishdi
Boshlang'ich bolalar shifoxonasi va ko'rgan,

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kabi, ko'ndalang bilan original tashxis
miyelit.

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Doktor chiqib, mendan so'raganida:
u kasal bo'lganmi?

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Yo‘q, kasal bo‘lmagan, dedim. U bor edi
1 fevralda HPV vaktsinasi. Va

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ular ketishdi, oh.

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Xo'sh, biz bu haqda VARSga xabar beramiz.

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Bu qila olmaydiganga o'xshaydi
yana xabar bering.

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Afsuski,

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Kolton 2018 yilda o'z joniga qasd qildi
chunki u haddan tashqari ko'p bo'lib qolganiga ishondi

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uning oilasiga yuk.

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Ammo men eslagan narsa ...

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u erda turib, buni tomosha qilmoqda
intervyu bo'lib o'tmoqda mening hamkor prodyuserim

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Polli Tommi intervyu berdi
uning yon tomonida osilgan bu quti

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Bu uning uchun nafas edi va u ketdi
a orqali o'tayotgan naycha orqali

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uning tomog'ida teshik va u tom ma'noda bor edi
o'pkasini to'ldirishini kutish

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u savolga shunday javob berishidan oldin havo
borib, keyin javob bera boshladi

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u havo tugamaguncha savol I
barcha odamlar haqida o'yladim

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anti-vaxxers deb atalmish bularni aybladi
poliomielit yoki temir o'pkani qaytarish.

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Emlash stavkalari tushganda, siz
juda ko'p odamlarga ega bo'ladi

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kasal va ko'plab bolalar uchun falaj
umrining qolgan qismi poliomielit bilan. I

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– deb o‘yladi u temir o‘pka kiygan.
Siz metall naychaga yotmaysiz

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endi. Ular buni agacha qisqartirishdi
yoningizda osilgan quti va shlang

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bu sizning tomog'ingizga tushadi.

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Ammo bu holda ...

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U falaj emas edi, chunki u bor edi
poliomielit. U shol emas edi, chunki u

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emlashmagan.

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Gardasil HPV tufayli u falaj bo'lgan
vaktsina.

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Men qizimni emlashni tanladim
chunki men uning bir ayol kam bo'lishini xohlayman

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bachadon bo'yni saratonidan ta'sirlangan. Bir kam.
Gardasil.

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Keyin uyga bordim va tepaga qaray boshladim
barcha qo'shimchalar, ogohlantirish yorliqlari

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butun bolalikni o'rab oladi
vaktsinalar va ularning aksariyati buni to'g'ri aytadi

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jiddiy salbiy hodisalar mavjud.

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Guillain-Barre sindromi. Bu
falaj.

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yoki ko'ndalang mielit, falaj.

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Va biz yo'q qilmaganimizni angladim
vaktsina bilan paralitik kasalliklar

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dastur.

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Biz paralitik kasalliklarni keltirib chiqaramiz
vaktsina dasturimiz.

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Shunday qilib, biz mamlakat bo'ylab sayohat qilib, ba'zi
Ota-onalar kelib, men hozirman, deyishardi

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farzand ko'rish. Men, albatta, bormayman
MMR vaktsinasini olish uchun, chunki sizning

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film bu xavfli ekanligini ko'rsatadi.
Ammo qolgan 16 ta vaktsina haqida nima deyish mumkin?

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vaqtga kelib 72 dozada beriladi
bolam 18 yoshdami?

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Va men aytmoqchimanki, menda faqat anekdot bor
minglab dalillar

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intervyular men buni bitta emas qildim
bolalik vaktsinasi xavfsizdir. Lekin shunday

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ilmiy emas.

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Men yaxshiroq narsani xohlardim. Men xohlardim
buning tubiga tushing. Shunday qilib, men boshladim

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Axborotlangan rozilik deb nomlangan notijorat tashkilot
Harakatlar tarmog'i.

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Nyurnberg kodeksining huquqi asosida
ixtiyoriy rozilik, axloqiy tamoyil

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keyin global miqyosda kelishilgan
Natsist shifokorning dahshatli odami

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tajriba.

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eksperimental kontslagerlar
maqsadlar.

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Qayerda ko'rsatilgan bo'lsa, ixtiyoriy rozilik
inson mavzusi mutlaqo

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muhim va bo'lmasligi kerak
kuch elementi, firibgarlik, yolg'on, majburlash,

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yoki haddan tashqari ko'tarilish yoki boshqa yashirin shakl
majburlash yoki majburlash.

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Men qilmoqchi bo'lgan narsamni tekshirish edi
butun vaktsina dasturi.

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Men haqiqatan ham bir narsaga e'tiborimni qaratgandim. Biz
vaktsinalar xavfsiz ekanligini eshiting

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samarali. Ammo biz tashvishlanishdan oldin
ular samarali bo'lsa, biz qanday qildik

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ular xavfsiz ekanligini aniqlaysizmi?

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Biz barcha fanlarni ko'rib chiqa boshladik
butun dunyo bo'ylab.

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Ammo biz katta to'siqqa duch keldik.

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Siz ishlab chiqaruvchiga da'vo qila olmaysiz
vaktsina. Bu yagona mahsulotlardan biri

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Amerikada ular nima deb atashadi
javobgarlikni himoya qilish.

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Sababi, mavjud bo'lgan qonun
1986 yilda AQSh hukumati tomonidan qabul qilingan.

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Asosan farmatsevtika sanoati
hukumatni shantaj qildi.

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Va ular aytishdiki, biz juda ko'p yo'qotyapmiz
o'lim va jarohatlar uchun da'volardan tushgan pul

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bizning vaktsinalarimizdan biz buni qila olmaymiz
foyda.

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Tadqiqotlar shuni ko'rsatdiki, ko'k
yo'tal yoki ko'k yo'talga qarshi emlash miyaga sabab bo'ladi

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zarar. Bahs haqiqatdan ham emas
Bu sodir bo'ladi, lekin qanday qilib

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tez-tez sodir bo'ladi.

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Va agar xohlasangiz, bizni xohlasangiz, deyishdi
vaktsinalarni ishlab chiqarishni davom eting, ketasiz

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javobgarlikni o'z zimmasiga olishga majbur bo'ladi.

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Va hukumatimiz bunga rozi bo'ldi.

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Agar sudga bermoqchi bo'lsangiz yoki olmoqchi bo'lsangiz
nimadan tashqari har qanday ma'lumot

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hammaga ma'lum bo'lsa, kerak bo'ladi
hukumatni sudga berish.

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Va o'shanda men o'zimga kerakligini angladim
konstitutsiyaviy advokat.

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Va men Aaron Seri ismli yigitni topdim.

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Janob Seri, siz shifokor emassiz,
sizmi? Yo'q, ser.

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Va siz immunolog emassiz yoki
biologist or...

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Har qanday... Vaktsinologlar uchun, yo'q,
lekin men ularni muntazam ravishda ishdan bo'shatib qo'yaman, shu jumladan

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bo'yicha dunyoda yetakchi
vaktsinalar va men o'z da'volarimni bildirishim kerak

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Men borganimda haqiqiy dalillarga asoslangan
vaktsinalar bo'yicha sud. men yo'q

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get to rely on titles.

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Xop.

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Uning oldinga daho yo'li bor edi.

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Biz hukumatni sudga beramiz
agentliklar, HHS, FDA, NIH va biz boshladik

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g'alaba qozonish. Va biz ularda nimani isbotladik
da'volar?

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Vaktsina ortidagi butun fan
xavfsizlik butunlay firibgarlikdan boshqa narsa emas edi.

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Shifokorlar ota-onalarni tinglashardi.

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Ota-onalari kirib:
Hey, bolam bundan qiynalmoqda

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vaziyat, bu muammo bor, shifokorlar
ularni tingladi.

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Lekin ota-onalar kela boshlaganlarida va
dedi, bolam kirdi va emlash oldi

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va keyin X muammosi paydo bo'ldi, ya'ni
shifokorlar tinglashni to'xtatganda.

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Salom. Ahvoling yaxshimi? Bizda uch egizak bor.

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Ikki o'g'il va bir qiz.

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Richi, Robbi va Kler.

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Hayotimizda har bir kun bayram edi.

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Har kuni ular tabassum qilishdi va
bir-biriga qarab kulib,

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bir-biriga jalb qilish.

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2007 yil 25 iyunda biz ularni olib keldik
pnevmokokk zarbasi.

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Qizimning izi hamon bor
zarbadan oyoq. U birinchi bo'ldi

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uni olish uchun, va u qichqirdi va hech qachon
haqiqatan ham bundan keyin baqirishni to'xtatdi.

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Lekin biz davom etdik. Biz bilmasdik. Biz qildik
yigitlar ham.

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Tushgacha Kler butunlay yopildi.

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Go'yo u ko'r va kar edi va
uning o'sha paytda qilgani faqat unga qarash edi

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ship foniy.

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Shunday qilib, tushda edi. Bizda zarba bor edi
10:00

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Soat ikkida biz Richining yopilishini kuzatdik.

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Ular barcha reflekslarini yo'qotdilar. men a
o'quv audiologi.

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Men haqiqatan ham testni o'tkazdim
stapedial refleks, bu kichikdir

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o'rta quloqdagi mushak, faqat yoki yo'qligini ko'rish uchun
ular nazorat qila olmaydigan mushak hali ham edi

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ishladi va ishlamadi. Stapedial
refleks tovushni susaytiradi, shuning uchun sizning quloqlaringiz yo'q

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haqiqatan ham baland ovozdan zarar ko'radi va ikkalasi ham
ularning stapedial refleksi yo'q edi. Ular

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miltillashni to'xtatdi, esnashni to'xtatdi,
to'xtadi ... Yo'talish, hapşırma to'xtadi.

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Eng yomoni, biz finalni ko'rganimizda
o'chirish.

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Bizga bu genetik ekanligini aytishdi.

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Va keyin bizga genetiklar aytishdi
uchinchi yo'l yo'q

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bolalar o'sha kuni yopiladi.

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Shunday qilib, bizda jiddiy autizm spektri bor edi
kirgan barcha uch bolalar uchun tartibsizlik

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bolalar bog'chasi. Biz yuzlab pul sarfladik
minglab dollarlarni tiklashga harakat qilmoqda

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ular.

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Biz qaytarib olgan yagona odam - Rich
yoki Robbi, oxirgi marta yopilgan

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o'chirilgan. Richi faqat yolg'iz aytishi mumkin, ehtimol
ikkita so'z birga.

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Kler hali ham mutlaqo og'zaki bo'lmagan,
qozonga o'rgatilmagan. Robbi esa

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sinf darajasiga yaqinlashadi, ammo og'ir OKB.

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Sizga hayotimizda qanday kun borligini aytib beraman
hisoblanadi.

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Shunday qilib, siz, aytaylik, olti yoki etti yoki bor
Sakkiz yoshli bola, u yirtqichlardan emas

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tarbiyalangan. va soat 2 yoki 3 yoki 4 da
ertalab ular tagliklarini to'ldirishadi.

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Xo'sh, siz buni go'zal deb o'ylaysiz
noqulay, shuning uchun ular uni olib tashlashadi.

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Tez orada hammasi tugadi. Hammasi
to'shakda, qisqa tartibda. Hammasi

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mening ustimda. Hammasi uning ustida.

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Men unga tegaman. U urmoqda
men. Ikkovimiz ham bolani urmoqdamiz

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umuman olganda yagona begunoh partiyadir
stsenariy.

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Va diqqatga sazovor bo'lgan yagona narsa
bundan yo'q ...

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Sizga bu otishmani aytgan kimdir
xavfsiz.

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Hammalari o‘z to‘shagida uxlab yotibdi.

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Ularning dunyoda muammosi yo'q.

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Bu Richi, Robbi va haqidagi bitta hikoya
Kler har qanday munozaraga nuqta qo'yadi

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autizmga faqat genetika sabab bo'ladi.

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Buning genetik izohi yo'q
uch aka-uka va opa-singilga aylanadi

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xuddi shu kuni o'chirish.

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Nima qilish kerak, Qachon bor
mahsulot haqida keng tarqalgan shikoyatlar

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berilgan zararni keltirib, siz o'rganishingiz kerak
bu. Vaktsinalar boshqalar kabi sinovdan o'tkazilishi kerak

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dorilar. Ular xavfsizlik sinovidan o'tkazilishi kerak.

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Va afsuski, vaktsinalar yo'q
xavfsizlik sinovi.

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Vaktsinaning 72 dozasi hozirda majburiydir.
mohiyatan majburiy edi, ular edi

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tavsiya etiladi, lekin ular haqiqatan ham
mandatli, amerikalik bolalar, hech biri

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ularga bir emas, hech qachon bo'ysunmagan
litsenziyadan oldin platsebo-nazorat ostida

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sud. Sog'liqni saqlash va inson xizmatlari
Kotib Robert Kennedi Jr.

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asosiy ommaviy axborot vositalari tomonidan parchalanib ketgan
platsebo yo'qligini aytgani uchun

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vaktsinalar uchun sinovlar o'tkazilmoqda.

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Lekin u haq. Bu bizda aynan shunday
ga qarshi da'volarimizda topilgan

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hukumat. Bitta bolalik emas
vaktsina ikki tomonlama ko'rdan o'tadi,

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randomize platsebo-nazorat sinovi
litsenziya olishdan oldin.

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Bu xavfsizlikning oltin standarti
barcha farmatsevtika mahsulotlarini sinovdan o'tkazish,

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lekin o'tkazib yuborilmoqda.

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vaktsinalar uchun.

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Agar er-xotin ko'r qanday unutilgan bo'lsa
platsebo asosidagi sinov biz kabi ishladi

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uni o'rta maktab fanida muhokama qilgan
sinf, sizga eslataman.

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Biz bir guruh bolalarni ikkiga ajratamiz
guruhlar. Bitta guruh oladi

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vaktsina. Boshqa guruh oladi
ega bo'lgan mahsulot bo'lgan platsebo

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inson tanasiga ta'siri yo'q. Qachon
vaktsinalarga o'xshash in'ektsiyaga keladi,

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bu sho'r suv in'ektsiyasidir.

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Keyin u ikki marta ko'r deb ataladi, chunki
olimlar ham, bemorlar ham shunday

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Ularning qaysi biri borligini bilishdan ko'r bo'ldi.
Vaktsina oldilarmi yoki oldilarmi

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platsebo?

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Bu olimlar buni qilmasliklari uchun
o'rganishni foydasiga manipulyatsiya qilish

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turadigan farmatsevtika sanoati
bu emlash bo'lsa ko'p pul topish uchun

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xavfsiz ekanligini isbotlaydi.

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Keyin biz ushbu ikki guruhni ikkitaga kuzatib boramiz
besh yilgacha, ba'zan esa 10 yilgacha

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ko'p dorilar uchun yillar. Va oxirida
Ushbu tadqiqot natijasida biz ikkalasini ham ko'rni ochamiz

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sabr va olim.

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Shunday qilib, biz ikkala guruhni ham ko'rib chiqamiz
emlangan va platsebo guruhi, va biz

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ularning salomatlik natijalarini solishtiring.

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Kimda ko'proq saraton bor edi?

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Kimda ko'proq diabet yoki ADD, DEHB yoki
autizm yoki Tourette yoki qizil yuguruk yoki

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ko'p skleroz? Bularning hammasi
ular hozirda osmonga ko'tarilmoqda

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Amerika Qo'shma Shtatlari.

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Va agar siz ularni taqqoslasangiz, ikkalasi ham
xuddi shunday chiqadi, xuddi shunday

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emlangan guruhdagi muammolar miqdori
platsebo guruhidagi kabi, keyin bilasiz

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it's safe. Siz biz nima ekanligini aniqladingiz
call a safety baseline.

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Ammo emlangan guruhda ko'proq bo'lsa
platsebo guruhiga qaraganda muammolar, keyin biz

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bu xavfsiz emasligini va bo'lmasligi kerakligini biling
put on the market.

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Only one problem.

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Bolalikda bitta vaktsina yo'q
jadval hech dubl orqali bo'lgan

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- ko'r-ko'rona platsebo asosidagi sinov.

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Shuning uchun ular vaktsinalarni ayta olmaydilar
ilmga asoslangan xavfsiz edi.

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Barcha vaktsina sinovlari platsebo
nazorat qilinadimi?

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Yo'q va ular bo'lmasligi ham kerak. Shunday qilib, uchun
Misol uchun, Prevnar 13 bo'lganida, Prevnar ham shunday edi

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konjugat pnevmokokk vaktsinasi.

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FDA yangi pnevmokokkni tasdiqladi
vaktsina.

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Uni uchinchi bosqichda sinab ko'rish kerak edi
sud. Va shuning uchun u erda nazorat guruhi

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Prevnar 7 edi va unga ko'rsatilgan edi
ish.

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U bo'lgan Prevnar o'rnini egallaydi
ettita serotipga qarshi samarali.

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Ota-onadan olishni, qo'yishni so'rab bo'lmaydi
ularning bolalari pnevmokokk xavfi ostida

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bozorda mavjud bo'lganda kasallik
o'sha paytda buning oldini olish uchun vaktsina.

339
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,060
Va Jahon sog'liqni saqlash tashkiloti
bu haqda juda aniq edi. Shunday bo'lardi

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axloqiy sinov sifatida qabul qilindi.

341
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,400
Doktor Pol Opitz, kattalaridan biri
emlash tarafdorlari, ehtimol

342
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chunki u vaktsina yaratgan va a
uni o'ldiradi, rotavirus

343
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bolalik taqvimidagi vaktsinalar.

344
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,640
Men uchun moliyaviy jihatdan muhim emas
foyda yoki yo'q.

345
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:45,220
U aylanib o'tishni yaxshi ko'radi va biz, biz
har doim ham platsebo sinovlarini o'tkaza olmaydi,

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ayniqsa, agar vaktsina allaqachon mavjud bo'lsa
bu kasallikni qamrab oladi.

347
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:55,360
Shunday qilib, u Prevnar 13 kabi misoldan foydalanadi.
Prevnar 13 uning xavfsizlik sinovida edi

348
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:58,760
oldingi Prevnar 7 ga qarshi sinovdan o'tkazildi
vaktsina versiyasi.

349
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Va u Prevnar 13 ni sinab ko'ra olmasligingizni aytadi
sho'r platsebo qarshi, chunki u

350
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axloqsiz bo'lar edi. Siz rad etasiz
bolalarga vaktsinadan foydalanish imkoniyati

351
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allaqachon bozorda. Va unday emas
ularga nisbatan adolatli.

352
00:23:12,170 --> 00:23:17,210
Ammo u Prevnar 7ni tark etadi
hech qachon sho'r suvga qarshi sinovdan o'tkazilmagan

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platsebo, shuning uchun biz uning xavfsiz yoki yo'qligini bilmaymiz.

354
00:23:19,810 --> 00:23:23,790
Shunday qilib, biz sinovdan o'tmagan mahsulotni sinab ko'rmoqdamiz
boshqasi bilan xavfsizlik profilini bilish

355
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mahsulot biz xavfsizlik profilini bilmaymiz
ustida, va bu butun emlash qanday

356
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ishlarni rejalashtirish.

357
00:23:29,630 --> 00:23:31,830
Men buni viski tadqiqoti deb atashni yaxshi ko'raman.

358
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:33,510
Keling, tushuntiraman.

359
00:23:33,810 --> 00:23:37,550
Aytaylik, bir guruh odamlar bor
viski tayyorlanayotganidan shikoyat qilmoqdalar

360
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odamlar mast va ular o'z halokatga qilyapmiz
mashinalar va odamlar halok bo'lmoqda.

361
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Endi viski sabab bo'lishini tekshirish uchun
avtohalokatlar, siz dublni o'rnatasiz

362
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- ko'r platsebo sinovi.

363
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:54,340
Bir guruh, ya'ni test guruhi, oladi
10 zarba viski. Boshqa guruh,

364
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platsebo guruhi, 10 zarba oladi
suv. Va keyin biz ikkalasiga ham ega bo'lardik

365
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haydash kursida haydab, kimni ko'ring
ko'proq baxtsiz hodisalar mavjud.

366
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Bu aniq.

367
00:24:03,310 --> 00:24:07,610
Lekin bu holda, viski kompaniyasi hisoblanadi
o'rganayotgan kishi. Va ular nima

368
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ayting, oh, biz bir qilamiz
platsebo asosidagi sinov. Ammo bizning platsebo

369
00:24:11,090 --> 00:24:15,250
-asoslangan sinov suv bo'lmaydi.
Bu aroq bo'ladi, allaqachon boshqa mahsulot

370
00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:19,550
bozorda. Shunday qilib, 10 kishi oladi
viski tortishish va 10 kishi olish

371
00:24:19,550 --> 00:24:23,730
aroq zarbalari. Va ularning hammasi bor edi
haydash. Va taxmin qiling, nima? Ularda xuddi shunday edi

372
00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:24,730
ko'plab avtohalokatlar.

373
00:24:24,990 --> 00:24:29,470
Shuning uchun, viski avtomobilga sabab bo'lmaydi
baxtsiz hodisalar, chunki bu hech qanday sabab bo'lmagan

374
00:24:29,470 --> 00:24:30,630
aroqdan ko'ra ko'proq.

375
00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:33,620
Va shuning uchun buni butun yo'lgacha olib borish uchun
oxiri doktor.

376
00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:39,760
Pol Offitning fikri, agar aroq bo'lsa
10 marta suvga qarshi sinovdan o'tkazildi

377
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,840
va avtohalokat sodir bo'lmagan
aroq guruhi, keyin u mantiqiy bo'lardi

378
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,260
viskini aroqqa qarshi sinab ko'ring. Lekin
Biz hammamiz bilamizki, o'rganish hech qachon amalga oshirilmagan,

379
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xuddi hech qanday vaktsina platsebo tadqiqoti bo'lmagani kabi
hech qachon bajarilgan.

380
00:24:55,020 --> 00:25:00,500
Bajarishingiz kerak bo'lgan narsa... Kirish
Kompyuteringizda FDA litsenziyali vaktsinalar,

381
00:25:00,580 --> 00:25:04,520
va ular sizga beradigan har bir emlash
bolalik jadvalidagi bola bo'ladi

382
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,459
u erda paydo bo'ladi.

383
00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:09,780
Va keyin siz xohlagan birini bosishingiz mumkin
qiziqtiradi. Keling, Recombivax-ni bosing

384
00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:14,460
HB. Bu gepatit B dan biridir
ular chaqalog'ingizga beradigan vaktsinalar

385
00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:15,600
hayotning birinchi kuni.

386
00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:20,120
Salom, dunyoga xush kelibsiz, nafas oling
Sizning birinchi nafasingiz va mana sizning nafasingiz keladi

387
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:21,580
birinchi jinsiy yo'l bilan yuqadigan kasallik.

388
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,260
Endi vaktsina qo'shimchasiga o'ting. Bu
joylashtiring yoki ogohlantirish yorlig'i

389
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:30,900
qachon vaktsina atrofiga o'ralgan
shifokoringizga topshiriladi. Unda hammasi bor

390
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:35,340
ichida nima borligi kabi ma'lumotlar turlari
emlash, barcha ingredientlar, yon

391
00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:38,260
emlashning ta'siri, lekin men sizni xohlayman
e'tiborni qaratish uchun ...

392
00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:42,480
6.1-bo'lim. Bu yerda ular gaplashadi
ular tayangan klinik sinov haqida

393
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,040
xavfsizlikni o'rnatish uchun.

394
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,200
Har bir vaksinada har doim 6,1 ni tashkil qiladi,
shuning uchun siz ularning barchasini ko'rishingiz mumkin. Lekin ichida

395
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Bu, siz faqat borligini ko'rasiz
Butun sud jarayonida 147 bola va

396
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,780
ular faqat besh kun davomida kuzatilgan
har bir dozadan keyin.

397
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:00,300
Besh kun.

398
00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:04,500
Shunday ekan, o'ylab ko'ring. Birortasini olasizmi
faqat xavfsizligi uchun nazorat qilingan dori

399
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:05,680
besh kunga?

400
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,580
Agar bolangiz oltinchi kuni vafot etsa, unday emas
bu sud tomonidan qo'lga olingan. Ular aytadilar, biz

401
00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:11,580
hech qanday o'limni ko'rmagan.

402
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,760
Agar bolada ikki yil o'tgach autizm bo'lsa yoki
boshqa otoimmün kasalliklar yoki

403
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,500
nevrologik kasalliklar, oladigan narsalar
yillar rivojlanishi uchun, ular aytishadi, biz yo'q edi

404
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:26,340
har qanday sinovimizda ko'ring. Shuning uchun har bir
Biz qabul qilgan dori ko'p yil davomida o'tadi

405
00:26:26,340 --> 00:26:27,340
xavfsizlik sinovi.

406
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,180
Ko'p muammolaringiz o'z zimmangizga oladi
rivojlanish uchun yillar.

407
00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:34,280
Va agar sizning o'qishingiz uzoq bo'lmasa,
siz ularni hech qachon, hech qachon ko'rmaysiz.

408
00:26:34,990 --> 00:26:39,170
Bizda qiziqarli imkoniyat bor edi
bu haqda doktor bilan gaplashing.

409
00:26:39,450 --> 00:26:44,850
Stenli Plotkin, deb hisoblanadi
bizning vaktsinamizning hukmron cho'qintirgan otasi

410
00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:45,850
dastur.

411
00:26:47,230 --> 00:26:51,830
Doktor Sten Plotkin. Doktor Plotkin. Virtual
dunyoning har bir davlati ta'sir qiladi

412
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:52,890
uning vaktsinalari bilan.

413
00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:58,570
Qizilchaga qarshi emlash, rotavirus kabi
vaktsina, quturgan. U shunchaki mashq qildi

414
00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:02,130
olimlar avlodi, shu jumladan
o'zim, u o'ylagandek o'ylash.

415
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,660
uchun standart darslikni ishlab chiqdi
1988 yilda vaktsinalar.

416
00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:09,260
Bill Geyts o'z kitobini Injil deb atadi
vaktsinologlar.

417
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,580
Umid qilamanki, u aniqroq
Injil.

418
00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:18,880
2018 yilda bizning advokatimiz Aaron Seri bor edi
qasamyod ostida suratga tushish imkoniyati

419
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,100
Doktor Stenli Plotkin. Va undan so'radi
bu aniq savol. Besh kunlik

420
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:28,800
hammasini qo'lga olish uchun etarlicha uzoq xavfsizlik sinovi
odamlarning yon ta'siri

421
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,440
gepatit B dan shikoyat qiladi
vaktsina?

422
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:39,420
Doktor Plotkin, bu mahsulot, the
recombivax HP uchun ishlab chiqaruvchi qo'shimcha,

423
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,600
to'g'rimi? Ha.

424
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,120
Va klinik sinov tajribasi
6.1-bo'limda topish mumkin, to'g'rimi?

425
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,920
To'g'ri.

426
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,700
Doktor Plotkin?

427
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:51,060
Ha. Xop.

428
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,500
6.1-bo'limga qaraganingizda
oldin o'tkazilgan klinik sinovlar

429
00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:01,300
-recombivax HP uchun litsenziya, qancha vaqt
xavfsizlik nazorat qilingani aytiladimi?

430
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:02,300
har bir dozadan keyin?

431
00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:06,210
Ko'raylikchi.

432
00:28:13,370 --> 00:28:15,190
Besh kun.

433
00:28:15,670 --> 00:28:16,670
Xop.

434
00:28:16,790 --> 00:28:20,790
Aniqlash uchun besh kun etarli
beshdan keyin paydo bo'ladigan otoimmün muammo

435
00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:21,790
kunlar?

436
00:28:22,270 --> 00:28:27,310
Yo'q. Aniqlash uchun besh kun etarli
paydo bo'lgan har qanday nevrologik kasallik

437
00:28:27,310 --> 00:28:29,130
besh kundan keyin emlashdan?

438
00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:31,350
Yo'q. Nazorat guruhi yo'q, to'g'rimi?

439
00:28:32,379 --> 00:28:34,960
U hech qanday nazorat guruhi haqida gapirmaydi,
yo'q.

440
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:43,480
Agar siz 6.2-bo'limga murojaat qilsangiz, ostida
asab tizimining buzilishlari, deb ta'kidlaydi

441
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,380
haqida xabarlar bor edi
Guillain-Barre sindromi, to'g'rimi?

442
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,680
Ha. Ko'p skleroz kabi,
ko'p sklerozning kuchayishi,

443
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,920
miyelit, shu jumladan ko'ndalang miyelit;
tutilish, febril tutilish, periferik

444
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,920
neyropatiya, shu jumladan Bell falaj.

445
00:29:01,210 --> 00:29:05,270
mushaklar kuchsizligi, giperteziya va
ensefalit, to'g'rimi?

446
00:29:05,890 --> 00:29:12,510
To'g'ri. Xop. Endi, davom etishdan oldin,
bular

447
00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:19,110
hisobotlarni kiritish talab qilinadi
chunki ular haqida xabar berilgan

448
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:25,950
keyin sodir bo'lganidek, hokimiyatga
emlash. Bu bunga dalil emas

449
00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:28,130
vaktsina bu reaktsiyalarni keltirib chiqardi.

450
00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:33,010
U yoki yo'qligini aniqlash uchun
vaktsina va emlash o'rtasidagi sabab

451
00:29:33,010 --> 00:29:39,390
vaziyat, sizga tasodifiy kerak
platsebo-nazorat ostidagi tadqiqot.

452
00:29:39,670 --> 00:29:44,830
Ammo bu gepatit uchun qilinmagan
Litsenziya olishdan oldin B vaktsinasi, shundaymi? Yo'q.

453
00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:49,310
Mayli. Nazorat guruhisiz, agar siz
qidirayotgan edi...

454
00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:54,920
emlashda yuzaga keladigan hodisa
guruh, siz bu hodisani hukm qila olmaysiz

455
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,700
nazorat guruhiga ega bo'lmasdan.

456
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,640
Hozir shunday bo'lardi, to'g'rimi
bunday qilish axloqiy emas deb hisoblangan

457
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,780
bugun o'qiysizmi?

458
00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:08,980
Bu, ha, axloqiy jihatdan bo'lar edi
qiyin.

459
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:14,440
Shunday qilib, butun o'yin shunday
o'ynadi. Ular xavfsiz platsebo qilmaydi

460
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,320
vaktsina litsenziyalanishidan oldin sinov.
Keyin odamlar bilan saf tortganda

461
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,900
bu jiddiy yon ta'sirlarning barchasi, siz
ayting, yaxshi, siz platsebo asosida qila olasizmi

462
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:25,400
hozir sud? Va ular: "Yo'q, shunday" deyishadi
axloqsiz. Shunday qilib, ular buni oldin qilishmaydi.

463
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,800
Jarohatlardan keyin ular buni qilmaydi.
Va ular o'qishni qila olmasalar, sizning

464
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Doktor sizga aytadi, men hech narsani ko'rmadim
tadqiqotlar shuni ko'rsatadiki, bu jarohatlar

465
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,440
vaksina sabab bo'ladi.

466
00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:36,080
Shuning uchun, men ularni shunday deb o'ylayman
xavfsiz.

467
00:30:37,550 --> 00:30:41,210
CDC bilan rozimisiz?
chaqaloqlar qabul qilish tavsiyasi a

468
00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:42,690
hayotning birinchi kunida gepatit B?

469
00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:49,090
Ha. Siz gepatit B emasligini aytdingiz
ensefalitga olib keladi, to'g'rimi?

470
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:52,670
Bu mening fikrim, ha.

471
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:58,190
Biroq, XMT o'z ko'rib chiqishdan so'ng,
ilm topa olmasligini aniqladi

472
00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:00,550
sababini aniqlashni bir yo'l bilan qo'llab-quvvatlang
yoki boshqa.

473
00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:04,390
To'g'rimi? Ha.

474
00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:10,000
Ammo bu ularning yo'qligini anglatadi
taxmin uchun dalil.

475
00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:14,060
Bu sabab bo'ladi yoki sabab bo'lmaydi.

476
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,320
To'g'ri. Ular bilishmaydi. Ular bilishmaydi
chunki etarli ma'lumotlar yo'q. In

477
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:25,920
ma'lumotlarning yo'qligi, mening xulosam shu
hech qanday dalil yo'q

478
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,240
bu sababchilik mavjud.

479
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,440
Shunday qilib, buni ko'rsatadigan ma'lumotlar bo'lmasa
sabab bo'ladi yoki sabab bo'lmaydi.

480
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,160
Ha. Sizning taxminingizcha, men shundayman
to'g'ri tushundimi?

481
00:31:39,460 --> 00:31:41,500
Ha. Bu bunga sabab bo'lmaydimi?

482
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:43,920
Buning isboti yo'qligini.

483
00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:47,920
Xop. Bu aytishdan farq qiladi
sabab bo'lmaydi, to'g'rimi?

484
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:49,260
To'g'ri.

485
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,760
Shunday qilib, keling, aniq aytaylik. Vaktsina xavfsizligi emas
fan va ma'lumotlarga asoslanadi. U asoslanadi

486
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,360
xavfsizlik farazi.

487
00:31:57,850 --> 00:32:01,850
Va bu biz topadigan boshsizlikdir
O'zimiz ichkariga kirdik. Lekin chiqishning bir yo'li bor

488
00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:05,990
bu. Platsebo asosidagi qilish o'rniga
o'rganish, siz retrospektiv tadqiqot qilishingiz mumkin

489
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:09,630
allaqachon qilgan odamlarga qarash
ular borar yoki yo'qligini tanlashadi

490
00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:10,630
emlash yoki yo'q.

491
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:14,470
Va keyin siz bu guruhlarni solishtirasiz,
vaktsinalarni olganlar va

492
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:18,210
emlamaslikka qaror qilganlar. Biz
emlangan qarshi deb ataymiz

493
00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:19,530
emlanmagan o'rganish.

494
00:32:19,810 --> 00:32:22,970
Buni bir necha mustaqil ...

495
00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:28,880
kichiklar orasida olimlar va institutlar
bolalar guruhlari, lekin hech qachon asosiy tomonidan

496
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,220
davlat organi yoki yirik tibbiyot
ob'ekt.

497
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,860
Ushbu tadqiqotning muhimligi sababi, I
deb o'ylayman, bir tadqiqot tomonidan tasvirlangan

498
00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:40,860
a tomonidan Afrikaning Gvineya-Bisauda amalga oshirilgan
Doktor Piter Abe ismli odam.

499
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,680
U yetakchi mutaxassislardan biri. U
pro-vaktsina, va u vaktsinani ishlab chiqadi

500
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,300
Uchinchi dunyo uchun dasturlar.

501
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,060
Uning DTP vaktsina dasturi bor edi, u 30-ni ishlatar edi
yillar oldin Gvineya-Bisauda, Afrikada va

502
00:32:53,060 --> 00:32:57,360
30 yildan keyin tanildi, bilasiz
Nima, bolalarning faqat yarmi

503
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,500
mamlakat bu vaktsinani oldi, ikkinchisi
yarmi qilmadi. Men mukammal qila olardim

504
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,920
emlanganlar o'rtasidagi qiyosiy o'rganish
va emlanmaganlar.

505
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:09,520
Va u bu tadqiqotni qilganida, natijalar
aqlini pir qildi.

506
00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:11,490
Bu vaktsinalar haqida.

507
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:17,790
Va men buni tan olish muhim deb o'ylayman
hech qanday muntazam vaktsina sinovdan o'tkazilmagan

508
00:33:17,790 --> 00:33:21,810
randomizatsiyalangan holda o'limga barcha ta'siri
joriy etishdan oldin sinovlar.

509
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:26,490
O'ylaymanki, ko'pchiligingiz biz bilamiz deb o'ylaysiz
bizning vaksinalarimiz nima qilmoqda. Biz yo'q.

510
00:33:27,410 --> 00:33:30,890
Biz bu haqda gapiradigan dastur
vaqt, emlash dasturi edi

511
00:33:30,890 --> 00:33:31,890
joriy etildi.

512
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,960
70-yillarning oxirlarida, keyin
chechakni muvaffaqiyatli yo'q qilish, JSST

513
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,440
birinchi emlashni amalga oshirdi
kam daromadli mamlakatlar uchun dastur.

514
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Bu erga kelganingizda, sizda 2,3 bor
Agar siz DGP bo'lsangiz, o'lim darajasi bir baravar yuqori

515
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,360
emlangan.

516
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:53,100
Va bu eng ko'p ishlatiladigan
dunyoda vaktsina. Shunday qilib, qichqiriq

517
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:56,680
yo'talga qarshi emlash yoki ko'k yo'talga qarshi emlash edi
ikki baravar yuqori bilan bog'liq

518
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,680
o'lim.

519
00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:02,080
Siz to'liq vaktsina olishingiz mumkin
muayyan kasallikdan himoyalangan,

520
00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:04,200
lekin yuqori o'lim bilan bog'liq.

521
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:05,620
Qanday qilib bu mumkin?

522
00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:12,139
Tadqiqotni ko'rib chiqqandan so'ng, bu aniq bo'ldi
emlashdan himoya qilgan

523
00:34:12,139 --> 00:34:16,219
ular uchun emlangan kasallik. The
Bolalar difteriya, qoqsholdan o'lmagan,

524
00:34:16,219 --> 00:34:17,219
va ko'k yo'tal.

525
00:34:17,370 --> 00:34:18,429
Faqat bitta muammo.

526
00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:22,830
Bir marta qarashsa, ular o'lib ketishdi
bularning barchasidan besh baravar ko'p

527
00:34:22,830 --> 00:34:23,708
boshqa masalalar.

528
00:34:23,710 --> 00:34:28,210
Shunday bo'lsa-da, bu aniq edi
bu kasalliklardan himoya qilish, u

529
00:34:28,210 --> 00:34:31,429
ularning immun tizimini zaiflashtirdi
boshqa har xil muammolar.

530
00:34:31,830 --> 00:34:35,610
Bu haqda boshqa olimlardan biri
tadqiqot bu haqda TED nutqini o'tkazdi.

531
00:34:37,850 --> 00:34:42,270
Himoyalanganiga qaramay
uchta halokatli kasallik, kirish

532
00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:45,730
DGP ortishi bilan bog'liq edi
umumiy o'lim.

533
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,040
DTP vaktsinasini olgan bolalar bor edi
nisbatan o'lim xavfi besh baravar yuqori

534
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,659
qilmaganlar. Va bu faqat bitta
DTP bo'yicha olib borilgan ko'plab tadqiqotlarga misol

535
00:34:56,659 --> 00:35:01,660
vaktsina va ularning barchasi bir xil ko'rinadi. DTP
emlangan bolalar yuqoriroq

536
00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:04,240
DTP ni olmaganlarga qaraganda o'lim.

537
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,320
Shunday qilib, DTP vaktsinasi bor ekan
salbiy, o'ziga xos bo'lmagan ta'sir.

538
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,820
Uchta o'limdan himoya
kasalliklar.

539
00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:17,310
juda yuqori narxda keladi, ya'ni
o'lim xavfi ortdi.

540
00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:24,770
Shunday qilib, eng yaxshi niyat bilan foydalaning
DTP vaktsinasi ko'proq bolalarni o'ldirishi mumkin

541
00:35:24,770 --> 00:35:25,770
tejaydi.

542
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:31,270
Bilaman, bu natijalar juda katta
noqulay va ko'pchilik odamlar,

543
00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:34,210
Men, shu jumladan, ular bo'lmasa edi
rost.

544
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:36,810
Ammo ma'lumotlar bizga shuni aytadi.

545
00:35:38,070 --> 00:35:41,650
Bu faqat bitta vaksinani o'rganish edi
bolalar guruhida.

546
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Agar siz bolalarni o'rgansangiz nima bo'lardi?
bitta vaktsinani emas, balki ular orasida

547
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,260
72 va 100 ta vaktsinalar mavjud bo'lganda
18?

548
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,980
Albatta, men eng ko'p gapiryapman
dunyoda emlangan millat, the

549
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,280
Amerika Qo'shma Shtatlari.

550
00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:02,900
Bizning federal sog'liqni saqlash idoralarimiz aslida
Tibbiyot institutiga qarash uchun pul to'ladi

551
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:07,600
sifatida emlash jadvali xavfsizligi da
bir butun. Va Tibbiyot instituti,

552
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,360
tekshiruvdan so'ng qaytib keldi
2013 yil hisoboti bilan.

553
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:17,200
Hisobotda aytilishicha, hech qanday tadqiqot taqqoslanmagan
salomatlik natijalaridagi farqlar

554
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,740
butunlay immunizatsiya qilinmagan populyatsiyalar o'rtasida
bolalar va to'liq emlangan

555
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:28,700
bolalar. CDC ning javobgarligi
o'sha tadqiqotlar va ular buyurilgan

556
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,420
ularni bajarish uchun yana va yana,
va ular rad etishdi.

557
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:37,220
Ammo Tibbiyot instituti qaradi
vaktsina jadvalida va dedi

558
00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:38,920
ularning 2011 yilgi hisoboti ...

559
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,660
150 dan ortiq jarohatlar bor
vaktsinalar bilan bog'liq bo'lishi mumkin

560
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:45,920
hech qachon o'rganilmagan.

561
00:36:46,220 --> 00:36:49,380
Xo'sh, CDC keyin nima qildi
Bu haqda Tibbiyot instituti xabar berdi

562
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:55,680
hisobot? Ular o'rganish o'rniga
a qanday qilish kerakligi haqida o'rganishni yakunladi

563
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,980
vax va unvax tadqiqoti.

564
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Bu ketdi va u juda ko'p pul to'ladi
qanday o'tkazish haqida oq qog'oz chiqarish

565
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,800
emlangan va emlanganlarni taqqoslaydigan tadqiqot
emlanmagan bolalar.

566
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:08,600
Ushbu oq qog'oz 2015 yilda chiqdi.

567
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Mana, biz 2025 yilga keldik, 10 yil
keyinroq. Ular hali ham buni hech qachon nashr etishmagan

568
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,700
o'rganish. Endi ular buni hech qachon qilmaganlar
o'qish?

569
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Men sizga ayta olmayman.

570
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Bu emlash xavfsizligi haqida ma'lumot
advokatlar xohlaydilar va so'rashadi

571
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,980
uzoq vaqt davomida. Va nima uchun buni bilmayman
bajarilmagan.

572
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:35,720
Bu oddiy o'rganish har bir yopiladi
abadiy anti-vaxxer.

573
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:41,670
Ular qilganiga ishonishim kerak
bu o'rganish ular mumkin bo'lgan har tomonlama.

574
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:46,810
Va ular qanday qilishni tushuna olmayotganga o'xshaydi
uni emlanganlarga o'xshatib qo'ying

575
00:37:46,810 --> 00:37:48,770
sog'lomroq. Lekin bu faqat mening fikrim.

576
00:37:50,410 --> 00:37:55,110
Men buni ko'rgan boshqa bir qancha tadqiqotlar
emlangan emlanmagan bilan solishtiring, lekin

577
00:37:55,110 --> 00:37:59,110
asosiy tibbiyot deydi, yaxshi, the
kohort juda kichik edi yoki ular teshik ochdilar

578
00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:01,590
unda mayor tomonidan qilmagani aytilgan
tibbiyot muassasasi.

579
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:06,730
Shunday qilib, agar biz hech qachon vaksni oladigan bo'lsak
qarshi emlanmagan o'rganish odamlar

580
00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:11,490
ishoning, shunday bo'lishi kerak
a da yuqori baholangan olimlar tomonidan amalga oshirilgan

581
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:16,650
ega bo'lgan yirik tibbiyot muassasasi
ma'lumotlar bazasi to'liq bajarish uchun etarlicha katta,

582
00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:21,030
solishtirganda kuchli tergov
vaktsina. emlanmaganlarga.

583
00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:27,650
Taqdirga ko'ra, Dell bosh bilan uchrashdi
Genri Forddagi yuqumli kasallik

584
00:38:27,650 --> 00:38:29,750
Sog'liqni saqlash tizimi, Marcus Servos.

585
00:38:35,050 --> 00:38:38,810
Men o'sha uchrashuvni hech qachon unutmayman, chunki
sen menga nimadir deding. Siz aytdingiz, men

586
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:41,690
filmingizni tomosha qildim. Bu qiziq.

587
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:47,150
Lekin siz hech qachon unutmayman dedingiz. Siz
dedi, siz nimadir deyapsiz va

588
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:48,150
videolaringizni tomosha qildim.

589
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,080
Men bilan muammo bor edi. Siz shunday dedingiz
ular vaktsinalar xavfsiz deb ayta olmaydi

590
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,960
chunki ular hech qachon to'g'ri ish qilmaganlar
xavfsizlik tadqiqotlari.

591
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,760
Va siz menga aytdingiz, men aslida
Men buni ko'rishni xohlaganim uchun tekshirdim

592
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:05,020
agar bu rost bo'lsa. Va siz aytdingiz: men
bu haqda sizga xabar berganim uchun uzr

593
00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:06,260
siz aslida bu haqda haqsiz.

594
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,300
Tegishli xavfsizlik tadqiqotlari o'tkazilmagan
bajarildi.

595
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:16,440
Xuddi shu narsa. Hozir ham aytaman. The
tegishli xavfsizlik tadqiqotlari o'tkazilmagan

596
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,450
bajarildi. Shunday qilib, men sizga aytdim:
siz esa, men kimligimni bilmayman

597
00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:22,830
shu yerda qilyapti. Men siz bilan rozi emasman. I
vaktsinalarga ishoning.

598
00:39:23,170 --> 00:39:27,550
Va men, hech qachon o'ylab ko'rasizmi, dedim
emlangan va emlanmagan holda qilish

599
00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:32,710
o'qish? Va siz men hamma narsani qilishimni aytdingiz
ma'lumotlar qaerda bo'lmasin, ma'lumotlar ma'lumotlardir,

600
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:34,350
to'g'rimi? Ha.

601
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:39,210
Doktor Zervos bilan birinchi marta uchrashganimda, u
qarshi emlash qilishga kelishib oldi

602
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:40,470
emlanmagan o'rganish.

603
00:39:40,690 --> 00:39:41,750
Ya'ni, men statik deb o'ylayman.

604
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,360
U mukammal edi.

605
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,760
Ford tibbiyot markazi ulardan biridir
dunyodagi eng yirik tadqiqot markazlari,

606
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,380
va doktor Zervos bo'lishning o'rtasida
endigina ishlagani uchun qahramon

607
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:53,620
butun Flint, Michigan suv inqirozi.

608
00:39:55,420 --> 00:40:02,020
O'nlab yillar davomida Flint, eng kambag'allardan biri
Amerika shaharlari,

609
00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:06,100
suvini Detroytdan sotib olgan edi.
Detroyt suvida qolish o'rniga

610
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:10,180
quvur o'tkazilayotgan paytda etkazib berish
qurilgan, shahar vaqtincha olish edi

611
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,580
uning suvi Flint daryosidan.

612
00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:16,430
Bu qaror shaharni majbur qiladi
eski suv tozalash inshootini faollashtirish.

613
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:18,030
Mana o'simlik.

614
00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:19,270
Mana.

615
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:23,490
Bu jo'mrakdan chiqadigan narsa.

616
00:40:23,710 --> 00:40:27,770
Suv jigarrang, yomon hidga ega. Biz qila olmaymiz
suv iching.

617
00:40:28,070 --> 00:40:32,610
Tez orada ular ko'payish joyiga aylandi
Legionella va odamlar olishdi

618
00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:36,850
kasal. Kislorod, siz hamma narsadasiz
vaqt, yoki siz uni hech qachon qabul qila olasizmi? I

619
00:40:36,850 --> 00:40:37,848
har doim xohlayman.

620
00:40:37,850 --> 00:40:42,470
Ha. Uning shifokori Markus Zervos bor edi
surunkali teri infektsiyasini davolagan

621
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:45,090
uning zaiflashgan immun tizimi qila olmadi
nazorat qilish.

622
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:49,310
Ular ancha yaxshi ishlamoqda. men
hayajonli. Bilasizmi, agar men ularni olsam

623
00:40:49,310 --> 00:40:51,990
yana bir oz shifo topdim, ketyapman
ular bilan uchrashish uchun

624
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:52,990
transplantatsiya bo'yicha shifokorlar.

625
00:40:55,110 --> 00:40:59,270
Mamlakatda 90 ta tasdiqlangan holat qayd etilgan
suv ortidan bir yarim yil

626
00:40:59,270 --> 00:41:00,270
almashtirish.

627
00:41:00,350 --> 00:41:01,790
O'n ikki kishi halok bo'ldi.

628
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:07,090
Sean McElmurray birga tortdi edi a
dan 23 nafar olim va mutaxassislardan iborat jamoa

629
00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:11,350
davlat atrofida. Jamoa aytadi
davlat ularga boshlashga ruxsat bermaydi

630
00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:13,210
manbasini izlash
avj olish.

631
00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:18,890
Doktor Zervos yuqumli kasallik edi
mutaxassis edi va u bundan xavotirda edi

632
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:24,450
kechikish. To'g'ri boshlash juda muhim edi
uzoqda, chunki iyun oyida biz ko'rishni kutgandik

633
00:41:24,450 --> 00:41:28,570
Legioner kasalligining ko'proq holatlari va
ko'proq o'lim bo'lardi, ya'ni

634
00:41:28,570 --> 00:41:29,570
biz nima...

635
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,860
topni o'z ichiga olgan uchrashuvda ifodalangan
MDHHSda etakchilik. Men o'zimni eslayman

636
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:38,740
hamkasbi, agar u bo'lmasa, buni aytdi
buni qiling, bilasizmi, odamlar o'lishi mumkin.

637
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:43,100
Afsuski, Nik Lyonning javobi bo'ldi
ular bundan o'lishlari kerak

638
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:47,960
nimadir. Aytmoqchimanki, siz shunchaki shokdasiz
deb aytgani natijasida, the

639
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,140
sog'liqni saqlash boshqarmasi direktori.

640
00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:52,680
Doktor Zerbo mukammaldek tuyuldi.

641
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:58,120
U butun sog'lig'iga qarshi chiqdi
Michigandagi tizim, shuning uchun men u shunday deb o'yladim

642
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Ehtimol, buni qilish uchun jasoratli bo'lishi mumkin
o'rganish.

643
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,160
Ammo keyin bir necha yil o'tdi va
hali o'rganilmagan.

644
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:10,480
Men Aaronga qo‘ng‘iroq qilib, nega bormaymiz, dedim
ko'ring, biz uni nihoyat ishontira olmaymiz

645
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,880
ushbu tadqiqotni bajaring.

646
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:16,660
Men Michiganga uchdim va biz bordik
Doktor Zervos bilan shaxsan tanishing.

647
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,280
Mana, imkoningiz bor, dedik.

648
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,060
Natijalar to'g'ridan-to'g'ri mos kelishi kerak
pravoslavlik bilan.

649
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:26,810
Emlangan bolalar sog'lom bo'lishi kerak
kengash bo'ylab. Uni olqishlash mumkin a

650
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:28,790
Nihoyat o'chirilgani uchun qahramon
anti-vaxxers.

651
00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:31,290
U buni qilishga tayyorligini aytdi.

652
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:37,170
Tadqiqot ular ma'lumotlaridan foydalanmoqchi edi
tom ma'noda allaqachon ularning ichida bor

653
00:42:37,170 --> 00:42:42,830
barmoq uchlari. Millionlab ma'lumotlar
allaqachon Genri Fordda bo'lgan odamlar

654
00:42:42,830 --> 00:42:48,210
Sog'liqni saqlash tizimining ma'lumotlar bazasi, shu jumladan
yuzlab, ehtimol minglab butunlay

655
00:42:48,210 --> 00:42:49,290
emlanmagan bolalar.

656
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,080
shuningdek, shubhasiz, bo'lgan bolalar
emlangan.

657
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:57,420
Bu ruxsat beradigan narsa buni qabul qilishdir
ko'p millionli ma'lumotlar bazasi,

658
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:02,920
bo'lgan bolalarni ajratish
tug'ilgandan boshlab Genri Ford tizimida bo'lgan

659
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,820
bir necha yil davomida doimiy ravishda.

660
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:10,560
Chunki bu tutqun HMO muhiti,
degan ma'noni anglatadi, u sug'urta bilan ta'minlaydi va uni

661
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,460
tibbiy yordam ko'rsatadi, u eng ko'p bor
bu bolalar uchun sog'liqni saqlash yozuvlari,

662
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:18,960
shu jumladan, agar ular Genrixdan chiqib ketishsa
Ford tibbiyot tizimi, Genri Ford...

663
00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:23,340
chunki sug'urtalovchi hali ham buning uchun to'layotgan edi.
Shunday qilib, ularda hamma uchun sog'liq kodlari bor edi

664
00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:29,460
bu bolalar olgan tibbiy xizmatlar. Shunday qilib
Agar siz o'sha bolalarni ajratsangiz, hozir

665
00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:33,500
sizda tug'ilgandan boshlab bolalar guruhi bor
kamida bir necha yil siz bilgan joyda

666
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:34,700
ular haqida hamma narsa.

667
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:42,260
Ilgari men dastur direktori edim
Genri Ford kasalxonasi, shuning uchun men buni yaxshi bilaman.

668
00:43:44,780 --> 00:43:47,300
Bu eng yaxshi integratsiyalangan salomatlik vositalaridan biridir
tizimlari.

669
00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:48,820
tadqiqot qilish.

670
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Genri Ford 90 million dollardan ortiq daromad oladi
700 ga yaqin yillik tadqiqot mablag'lari

671
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,300
rezidentlar va stipendiyalar va 53 ACGME
akkreditatsiya qilingan o'quv dasturlari.

672
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Menimcha, Genri Ford ham boshqalar kabi
tashkilotlarga nisbatan bir tarafga qaraydi

673
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,720
vaktsinalarning yaxshiligi.

674
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,060
Siz uni o'tkazib yubora olmaysiz. Bu to'liq sahifa
Bu erda Genri Forddan 56 bilan xat

675
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:16,020
qalin harflar bilan yozilgan imzolar, the
fan aniq, emlashlar.

676
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,580
hayotni saqlab qolish. Agar natijalar qaytib kelsa
ning akkumulyatori ekanligini ko'rsatadi

677
00:44:21,580 --> 00:44:26,100
vaktsinalar surunkali bilan bog'liq edi
kasalliklar va emlanmaganlar paydo bo'ldi

678
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,680
vaqt o'tishi bilan sog'lom, bunday natija bo'ladi
ayniqsa ishonchli bo'lsin.

679
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,020
Bilasizmi, men emlash tarafdoriman.

680
00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:37,420
Men emasman, bilasizmi, men aniq tarafdorman
vaktsinalar. Menimcha, bu eng yaxshi usul

681
00:44:37,420 --> 00:44:39,620
yuqumli kasalliklarni nazorat qilish
halokatli.

682
00:44:39,860 --> 00:44:41,160
Men majburiy emlash tarafdoriman.

683
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,260
Genri Ford majburiy emlashdir
men tufayli.

684
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:48,900
Genri Ford 90 ga yaqin salomatlikdan biridir
Qo'shma Shtatlar bo'ylab parvarishlash tizimlari

685
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:54,160
jami ro'yxatga olish uchun ishlamoqda
Moderna-Kovda 30 000 ko'ngilli

686
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,440
vaktsinani iloji boricha tezroq o'rganish.

687
00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:03,760
Bu oxirgi pandemiyaning eng yomoni
100 yil va bizning eng yaxshi umidimiz

688
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,700
bu bilan samarali ega bo'lish orqali
vaktsina.

689
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,380
Genri Ford barcha 33 000 xodimni talab qiladi
tomonidan to'liq emlash uchun a'zolari

690
00:45:11,380 --> 00:45:12,860
2021 yil 10 sentyabr.

691
00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:17,140
Sog'liqni saqlash tizimi buni aytadi
uning mavjud emlashiga mos keladi

692
00:45:17,140 --> 00:45:21,640
siyosat, qaysi jamoa a'zolari olish o'z ichiga oladi
har yili grippga qarshi emlash va dolzarb bo'lib qoling

693
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,640
boshqa emlashlar bilan.

694
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,100
Menga Genri Ford shunday tuyuldi
emlashga qarshi emas, pro-vaktsina. Shunday qilib, menda bor edi

695
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,780
ular qiladigan yagona sababni taxmin qilish
tadqiqot bizni noto'g'ri isbotlash uchun edi.

696
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:36,780
Dell va men buni ajoyib deb o'yladik
imkoniyat.

697
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,980
Ular taqqoslashni va
Ehtimol, ular uni nashr etishlari mumkin.

698
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,880
Faqat bitta iltimosimiz bor edi.

699
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Natija nima bo'lishidan qat'i nazar, sizdan so'ragan
nashr eting.

700
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,840
Natijalar bo'lsa, u shunday bo'larmidi
emlanmagan bolalar ekanligini ko'rsating

701
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:57,040
sog'lommi? Va agar u buni tushunganida
u nashrga taqdim etdi, u

702
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,160
uning butun g'azabiga duchor bo'ladi
kasb,

703
00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:02,320
bilmagan.

704
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:04,420
Bu bizning eng katta qo'rquvimiz edi.

705
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:09,700
Aytmoqchimanki, vaktsinalar - bu muqaddas g'alla
zamonaviy tibbiyot. Va har kim qaror qiladi

706
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:14,360
vaktsinalarga har qanday tarzda qarshi chiqish
asosan bid'atchilar hisoblangan.

707
00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:16,420
Vaktsinalar xavfsizdir.

708
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:21,220
Vaktsinalar xavfsiz va samarali.
Vaktsinalar xavfsiz va juda samarali.

709
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Xavfsiz va samarali.

710
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,460
Xavfsiz va ular juda samarali.

711
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:26,480
Vaktsinalar insoniyatning eng ko'plaridan biridir
aql bovar qilmaydigan yutuqlar va ular erishdilar

712
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,020
millionlab odamlarning hayotini saqlab qoldi. Bolalik
vaktsinalar taxminan to'rttasini oldini oldi

713
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:34,400
dunyo bo'ylab har yili million o'lim
yil. ning mutlaq ko'pchiligi

714
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,340
Bu mamlakatda pediatrlar kuchli
emlashni qo'llab-quvvatlash.

715
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:40,360
Uning emlash sanasi yo'q. Biz emas
emlash.

716
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,440
Jadval hozirgidek
tavsiya etilgan yaxshi sinovdan o'tgan. Bizda bor

717
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,140
uni millionlab odamlarda o'rgangan
bolalar. Milliardlab odamlar. O'nlab yillar

718
00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:53,020
keng qamrovli ilmiy tadqiqot
o'rganish. Ko'p asrlik fan. The

719
00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:57,280
fan ancha barqaror. Qabul qilingan
ko'p yillar endi. Biz bu fikr

720
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,980
juda ko'p vaktsinalarni qabul qilish. Haqiqatan ham bor
buni tasdiqlaydigan ilm yo'q. The

721
00:47:00,980 --> 00:47:04,720
ilmiy hamjamiyat maqola nashr etadi
qog'ozdan keyin qog'ozdan keyin.

722
00:47:05,020 --> 00:47:09,140
Ko'rish uchun hech narsa yo'q. Hech narsa yo'q
ko'rish. Men bu erda turmayman va ruxsat bermayman

723
00:47:09,140 --> 00:47:12,540
fitna nazariyalari. haqiqatdan chalg'itadi
yechimlar.

724
00:47:13,770 --> 00:47:17,770
Ko'pgina shifokorlar chaqirilishiga toqat qila olmaydi
quacks yoki ularning obro'siga ega

725
00:47:17,770 --> 00:47:22,550
vayron qilingan. Va men davolashdan ketdim
kasalxonamdagi laboratoriya mudiri

726
00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:27,830
gipertoniya kimgadir bo'lishi uchun
a keyin har bir darajada shubhali edi

727
00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:31,930
Men aytgan bir narsa tufayli,
edi, biz vaktsina berishni to'xtata olamizmi?

728
00:47:31,930 --> 00:47:35,510
kasal bemorlarimga va ularga bering
bo'shatish kunida? Va ular bor edi

729
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:40,490
meni qo'rqitishga harakat qilmadi, mendan shubha qil,
va meni tadqiqotga va buni ko'rsatishga undadi

730
00:47:40,490 --> 00:47:43,870
ko'rgan narsam haqiqatan ham haqiqat edi
hali ham qulflangan. sifatida ishlay boshladi

731
00:47:43,870 --> 00:47:48,430
muntazam shifokor. Florida departamenti
bilan hamkorlikda sog'liqni saqlash

732
00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:54,650
gubernator, oxirigacha ishlamoqda
Florida qonunidagi barcha vaktsina mandatlari.

733
00:47:55,130 --> 00:48:01,790
Ularning hammasi. Ularning hammasi. Mening tajribam
zararni muhokama qilish yoki oshkor qilish bilan

734
00:48:01,790 --> 00:48:06,970
vaktsinalar bilan bog'liq bo'lganlar
g'oyalar yoki suhbatlar yoqimli emas.

735
00:48:07,630 --> 00:48:11,030
Bu Florida jarrohidan
General, u yerda shifokor, rasm chizmoqda

736
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:13,070
sog'liqni saqlash mutaxassislarining qoralashi.

737
00:48:13,290 --> 00:48:17,430
Bu johillikmi, ahmoqlikmi,
yoki bu yomonlik, kun oxirida,

738
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:18,450
odamlar zarar ko'radi.

739
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:23,030
U a ni olishi shart emas
ba'zi odamlar tomonidan iliq quchoq

740
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:25,610
uning kasbi, lekin bu, albatta, nima
jasorat hamma narsada.

741
00:48:25,890 --> 00:48:30,990
Bu juda dushman muhit, ikkalasi ham
ilmiy va ommaviy axborot vositalarida.

742
00:48:31,610 --> 00:48:38,170
xulosaga kelgan shaxslar uchun yoki
asosiy oqimga qarshi fikrlarga ega

743
00:48:38,170 --> 00:48:39,170
g'oyalar.

744
00:48:41,970 --> 00:48:46,490
Har bir mustaqil olim bor
hech qachon emlashni amalga oshirishga jur'at etgan

745
00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:50,770
har qanday turdagi emlanmagan tadqiqotga qarshi
darhol hujum ostida.

746
00:48:50,990 --> 00:48:56,330
Doktor Entoni Mousonning bittasi bor
Missisipi. U uyda dars o'tkazdi

747
00:48:56,330 --> 00:49:00,690
600 ga yaqin bolalar va kashf etilgan
allergiyaning xavotirli stavkalari.

748
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:08,180
ADD, DEHB, nevrologik kasalliklar va a
autizm xavfini to'rt baravar oshiradi

749
00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:09,380
emlanganlar orasida.

750
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:12,580
O'qish chiqishi bilanoq, uning ishi
tahdid ostida edi.

751
00:49:12,780 --> 00:49:16,520
Aslida, men undan bu ishda bo'ladimi, deb so'radim
film, va u dedi, qarang, siz mening ko'rsatish mumkin

752
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,960
o'qiyman, lekin meni sudrab ketishdi
buning ustiga ko'mir orqali. Men ololmayman

753
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
endi. Keyin doktor Pol Tomas bor.

754
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,180
Hoy, ishlaringiz yaxshimi? Men nimaman
bu tomonni ko'rish pushti,

755
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:35,800
Shunday qilib, quloq pardasi yaralangan. Men bo'lganman
35 yildan beri pediatr. Men hozir

756
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:41,380
nafaqaga chiqqan. Birinchisida nimaga e'tibor berdim
Mening amaliyotim o'n yil yoki undan ko'p bolalar edi

757
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:45,340
tobora kasal bo'lib bormoqda. Va ustidan
keyingi o'n yil ichida, ko'proq va ko'proq bemorlar

758
00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:47,940
emlamaslikni tanladim, men ko'rishim kerak
farq.

759
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,460
Lekin men ko'rmoqchi edim, buni isbotlay olamanmi?

760
00:49:50,940 --> 00:49:54,980
Shunday qilib, amaliyotimdan barcha ma'lumotlarni oldik.
Menda tug'ilgan har bir chaqaloqqa qaradik

761
00:49:54,980 --> 00:49:58,140
amaliyot va uni nashr
Xalqaro sog'liqni saqlash jurnali.

762
00:50:00,060 --> 00:50:02,860
Va bu tadqiqot tengdoshlar tomonidan ko'rib chiqildi. Bu edi
mustahkam.

763
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Biz katta o'sishlarni aniqladik.

764
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:11,340
Aytmoqchimanki, biz 400% dan 500% gacha ko'proq gaplashamiz
allergiya, otoimmün sharoitlar,

765
00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:15,060
neyrorivojlanish muammolari, keyin esa biz
har xil turdagi infektsiyalar bor edi.

766
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:19,060
Emlanganlarda ommaviy ravishda ko'paydi
emlanmaganlarga nisbatan.

767
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:21,400
Men buni nashr qilganimda nima bo'ldi
o'qish?

768
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:27,880
U mavjud bo'lganidan keyin bir necha kun ichida
onlayn, men advokatimdan qo'ng'iroq qilaman.

769
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Hech qanday bemorni ko'rmang. Yozmang
har qanday retseptlar. ichiga kirmang

770
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,140
ofis. Sizning litsenziyangiz favqulodda
to'xtatilgan.

771
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,220
Siz jamoat salomatligiga xavf tug'dirasiz.

772
00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:37,940
Bugun nima?

773
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Bugun men oxirgi marta qilaman
Oregon shtatidagi klinik tibbiyot.

774
00:50:46,380 --> 00:50:50,640
Sizlar buni ushlab turishingizni bilish
ketadi, bu joyning yuragi yashaydi.

775
00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:54,610
Xo'sh, agar Dr.

776
00:50:54,690 --> 00:50:59,610
Zervos bu tadqiqotni o'tkazadi va u chiqadi
aynan boshqalar bilan bir xilmi?

777
00:50:59,870 --> 00:51:02,450
U hali ham nashr etadimi? Bu edi
savol.

778
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:04,910
Yillar o'tdi.

779
00:51:08,210 --> 00:51:13,690
2020 yilda menga ular qo'yganliklari haqida xabar berishdi
birgalikda o'rganish.

780
00:51:17,790 --> 00:51:21,070
Va o'sha o'quv qo'limda va men bor edi
unga qaradi.

781
00:51:21,390 --> 00:51:23,190
Buning ahamiyati.

782
00:51:23,470 --> 00:51:29,410
Bu haqiqiy tadqiqot edi, qachon
nashr etilgan, birinchi qadam edi

783
00:51:29,410 --> 00:51:30,650
bu manzarani o'zgartirish.

784
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:38,430
Haftalar o'tdi, keyin ko'proq vaqt o'tdi
tomonidan, va bir nuqtada, nima o'rgandim

785
00:51:38,430 --> 00:51:42,730
topshirilmas edi
for publication.

786
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:50,890
Aaron menga qo'ng'iroq qildi va ular tugaganligini aytdi
the study.

787
00:51:51,130 --> 00:51:52,450
Faqat bitta muammo.

788
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,260
Ular buni nashr qilmoqchi emaslar.

789
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,160
Ya'ni, biz qo'rqqan hamma narsa shu edi
ning.

790
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,960
Men doktor Zervosga qo'ng'iroq qildim va men qila olaman, dedim
uchib ketib, kechki ovqat uchun uchrashasizmi?

791
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:04,500
And he agreed.

792
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,980
Men Zervosning ko'zlariga qarashni xohlardim va
Undan so'rang, bu tadqiqotda nima yomon?

793
00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:12,780
Siz uni nashr etishdan qo'rqasizmi?

794
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,460
Men ushbu tadqiqotda nima borligini bilmoqchi edim.
I hadn't seen it.

795
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:20,980
Men ham bir yo'l bo'lishi kerakligini tasavvur qildim
uni ushbu tadqiqotni nashr qilishiga taklif qilish.

796
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,340
Lekin bir narsa aniq edi.

797
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,540
Bu mening oxirgi imkoniyatim edi.

798
00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:30,160
Men yashirin kameralarni olib kelaman va
ro'yxatga olish uskunalari shunday bo'lishidan qat'iy nazar

799
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,300
Bu kechki ovqatda nima sodir bo'ladi, men isbotlay olaman
sodir bo'ldi.

800
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:39,700
Sizni o'rganish haqida nima deb o'ylaysiz
yigitlar qildilarmi?

801
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:44,680
Bu muhim ma'lumot, chunki u
o'rtasidagi farqni ko'rsatdi

802
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,040
guruhlar. Qanday tushuntirishni bilmayman.

803
00:52:49,319 --> 00:52:53,140
Buni qanday tushuntirishni bilmayman, lekin u
muhim topilma edi.

804
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:59,120
Aytmoqchimanki, o‘qish... Topasizmi?
o'rganishdagi kamchiliklar? Aytmoqchimanki, bormi

805
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,640
bilan o'qishni yaxshiroq bajarishingiz mumkin
nima bor?

806
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:04,660
Men bilganimdan emas.

807
00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:05,940
Yo'qmi?

808
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,240
Bolalik davridagi emlashning qisqacha ta'siri
va uzoq muddatli surunkali salomatlik natijalari

809
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:25,120
bolalar. Tug'ilgan kohort tadqiqoti.

810
00:53:25,420 --> 00:53:27,200
Bu haqiqatan ham mustahkam.

811
00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:28,900
Natijalar qanday edi?

812
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:36,040
CDC sizning qandayligingiz haqida oq qog'oz chiqardi
emlanganlarga nisbatan qaraydi

813
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,340
emlanmagan, va biz uni 18 ga kuzatib bordik.

814
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,060
Men bunga qo'shilaman. Yo'q. Siz rozisiz
bu? roziman.

815
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,800
Yuz foiz qildi.

816
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Biz bunga boshqa tomondan qaradik va
yon tomonga.

817
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,820
Menimcha, bu halokatli sharh
bizning sog'liqni saqlash tadbirlarimiz haqida.

818
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,240
Chunki bu haqiqat bo'lsa, biz shundaymiz
bolalarni muntazam ravishda kasal qilish. Va yo'q

819
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,240
faqat bir oz kasal.

820
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,800
Juda kasal.

821
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Men shunga o'xshash narsalarni nashr qilishim mumkin
shuningdek, nafaqaga chiqish. Men tugatgan bo'lardim.

822
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,780
Aytmoqchimanki, men shunchaki qiziqaman.

823
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,640
Ushbu ma'lumotlar sizni o'ylashga majbur qiladi ...

824
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,760
bu siz uchun halokatli bo'ladi
siz o'ylaganingizdek martaba.

825
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:21,740
U nimadan bunchalik qo'rqardi? O'qish edi
bomba.

826
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:29,160
18468 ta sub'ekt, ulardan 1957 tasi
to'liq

827
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:35,440
emlanmagan. Salomatlikni solishtirganda
emlanganlarga nisbatan natijalari

828
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,300
emlanmagan, ular ko'payganini aniqladilar
bir nechta emlanganda xavf tug'diradi

829
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:41,440
surunkali sog'liq sharoitlari.

830
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,360
Emlangan sub'ektlar to'rtdan ortiq edi
astma bilan kasallanish ehtimoli ko'proq

831
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,360
tashxis.

832
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,900
4,29 marta tuzatilgan.

833
00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:56,680
Va men ko'p narsalarni ko'rib chiqdim
tadqiqotlar, bu 3,26 dan 5,65 gacha.

834
00:54:57,060 --> 00:55:00,480
Ular, shuningdek, uch baravar yuqori xavfni aniqladilar
atopik kasalliklar.

835
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Bu allergiyaning bir turi
kasalliklar.

836
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Ular uchun deyarli olti marta xavf topildi
otoimmün kasallik.

837
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,440
Otoimmün kasalliklar ushbu maqola
Trombotsitopeniklarni o'z ichiga oladi

838
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:19,260
purpura, revmatoid artrit, SLE,
tizimli qizil yuguruk, MS,

839
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,340
ko'p skleroz va Guillain-Barre
sindromi.

840
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:27,740
Ular 80 dan ortiq ekanligini ta'kidladilar
turli otoimmün kasalliklar va nima

841
00:55:27,740 --> 00:55:32,720
ularning ma'lumotlari otoimmunitetni ko'rsatdi, oltita
vaktsina olganlar soni ko'payadi

842
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,460
emlanmaganlar bilan solishtirganda.

843
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,980
Bu hayratlanarli.

844
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,740
Chunki otoimmün kasalliklar haqiqatan ham
sezilarli kasallanishni ifodalaydi va

845
00:55:41,740 --> 00:55:44,660
sog'liq uchun xarajatlar va azob-uqubatlar, bilasizmi,
umr bo'yi to'planadi.

846
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,460
Neyrorivojlanishning buzilishi.

847
00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:49,540
Biz qanday raqamlar haqida gapirayapmiz
haqida? Esingizdami?

848
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:54,300
Besh yarim baravar xavf
neyrorivojlanish buzilishlari.

849
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,660
Biz bilamizki, immunitet tizimi
ikkala miya bilan chambarchas bog'liq

850
00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:02,360
rivojlanishi va miya faoliyati.

851
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,860
Immunitet tizimi ishga tushganda
kasallik, potentsial emlash orqali, siz

852
00:56:09,860 --> 00:56:14,440
nöropsikiyatrik alomatlarga duch kelishi mumkin,
Ehtimol, miya yallig'lanishi bilan bog'liq

853
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,000
va miyadagi immun jarayonlar.

854
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,840
Dvigatel miqdori 2,92 baravar ko'p
nogironlar.

855
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,460
Nutqning 4,47 barobari
bilan solishtirganda emlanganda buzilishlar

856
00:56:27,460 --> 00:56:28,460
emlanmaganlar.

857
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,880
Rivojlanish tezligi uch barobar
kechikish.

858
00:56:33,260 --> 00:56:36,840
Ular men topgan narsalarni topdilar
allergiya va otoimmunitet bilan bog'liq.

859
00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:42,000
Bundan tashqari, olti marta ko'proq o'tkir va surunkali
quloq infektsiyalari.

860
00:56:44,620 --> 00:56:49,620
Qizig'i shundaki, bir nechta sog'liq bor edi
hatto qila olmaydigan sharoitlar

861
00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:56,320
Bu tahlil, chunki unda hech kim yo'q edi
emlanmagan guruh.

862
00:56:56,540 --> 00:57:02,170
Matematik formulalar qanday
ish... Hech birida nol bo'lishi mumkin emas

863
00:57:02,170 --> 00:57:04,170
guruhlash va xavfni solishtirish imkoniyatiga ega bo‘lish.

864
00:57:04,690 --> 00:57:10,470
Masalan, 262 nafar bola bor edi
emlangan guruhda DEHB bor edi.

865
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:15,150
Emlanmagan guruh orasida bor
DEHBning nol holatlari bo'lgan.

866
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:21,050
Nol. Bular shunchaki aqlni chalg'itadi.
Bu shartlar umuman topilmadi

867
00:57:21,050 --> 00:57:24,210
deyarli 2000 emlanmagan bolalarda.

868
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:26,250
Miyaning nol disfunktsiyasi.

869
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:28,030
Nolinchi diabet.

870
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:34,140
nol xulq-atvor muammolari, nol o'rganish
nogironlik, nol intellektual

871
00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:39,660
nogironlik, nol tics va nol boshqalar
ichida psixologik nuqsonlar

872
00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:40,660
emlanmagan.

873
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:50,760
Men bu erda xulosani o'qiyman.
Shunga qaramay, biznikidan farqli o'laroq

874
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,160
umidlari, yana, muallifning
Ular o'tkazishlarini kutgan edi

875
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,089
o'qish va ...

876
00:57:56,090 --> 00:57:59,610
Ehtimol, emlangan odamlarni butunlay toping
emlanmaganlarga qaraganda ancha sog'lom,

877
00:57:59,750 --> 00:58:03,950
to'g'rimi? Bu biz topgan narsa. topdik
bu emlash ta'siri edi

878
00:58:03,950 --> 00:58:10,950
mustaqil ravishda umumiy bilan bog'liq
ehtimolini 2,5 baravar oshirish

879
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:15,570
surunkali salomatlik holatining rivojlanishi
ta'sir qilmagan bolalar bilan solishtirganda

880
00:58:15,570 --> 00:58:16,570
emlash.

881
00:58:20,850 --> 00:58:24,090
Har qanday emlash, hatto bittasi bilan solishtirganda
yo'q.

882
00:58:24,750 --> 00:58:28,030
Ikki yarim baravar ko'proq
surunkali sog'liq holatiga ega.

883
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:34,010
Surunkali sog'liq sharoitlari yo'q edi
xavfi ortishi bilan bog'liq

884
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:35,010
ta'sirlanmagan guruh.

885
00:58:35,310 --> 00:58:36,310
Yo'q.

886
00:58:40,290 --> 00:58:41,870
Ushbu grafik nimani anglatadi?

887
00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:43,930
Menga buni tushuntiring.

888
00:58:44,510 --> 00:58:46,390
Vaktsinalarga qarshi emlashlar yo'q.

889
00:58:47,230 --> 00:58:51,550
Bu sizning yo'q bo'lish ehtimolligingizdir
surunkali salomatlik holatiga ega.

890
00:58:52,190 --> 00:58:54,730
Ular voqea vaqti deb atalgan narsani qilishdi
tahlil qilish.

891
00:58:55,130 --> 00:59:02,050
10 yoshda, bo'lish ehtimoli
surunkali kasallikdan holi edi

892
00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:08,810
emlangan guruhda faqat 43% ga nisbatan
83% da

893
00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:09,810
emlanmagan guruh.

894
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:12,710
Bu katta farq.

895
00:59:14,610 --> 00:59:18,310
Shunday qilib, agar siz emlanmagan bo'lsangiz, turasiz
bu erda yuqorida ...

896
00:59:19,350 --> 00:59:22,990
Sizlarning 80% bo'larmidingiz?
Siz mutlaqo sog'lomsiz

897
00:59:22,990 --> 00:59:24,910
50% plitkadan pastga tushasizmi?

898
00:59:25,330 --> 00:59:30,550
Aynan men aytgan narsa.
Men Amerikaning 54 foizini aytdim

899
00:59:30,550 --> 00:59:31,710
bolalarda surunkali kasallik mavjud.

900
00:59:32,170 --> 00:59:34,790
Aynan shu yerda. Bu asosan
bu nimani ko'rsatmoqda.

901
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:36,590
10 yillik kuzatuv.

902
00:59:37,610 --> 00:59:43,870
Emlanganlarning 57 foizi surunkali kasallikka chalingan
salomatlik holati atigi 10 yil ichida.

903
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,180
hammani hayratda qoldirishi kerak.

904
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,900
Keling, butun suhbatni eslaylik
Amerikada hozir haqiqat

905
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:57,600
bolalarimizning 54 foizi surunkali
kasal. Va bu erda biz ko'rib chiqamiz

906
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,640
o'rganish va bu deyarli aynan shunday
raqamlar.

907
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:07,920
Emlanganlarning 57% surunkali
kasal, holbuki faqat 17%

908
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,920
emlanmagan.

909
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,980
Men o'ylayman, chunki menda qiziqish bor
vaktsinalar va men maqsaddan tashqarini tushunaman,

910
01:00:14,980 --> 01:00:19,900
nonspesifik ta'sirlar, men xafa bo'ldim, lekin men
ajablanmadi.

911
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:27,240
Sizga shuni aytishim mumkinki, bu ma'lumotlar
mening eng katta tashvishlarimga mos keladi

912
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,960
bolalik davridagi emlash haqida
jadval. Yaxshilikka qaramay

913
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,180
vaktsinologiya sohasining niyatlari,
bu bizga teskari ta'sir qiladi.

914
01:00:36,940 --> 01:00:42,480
Deyarli har bir surunkali sog'liqda
toifasida, emlanganlar uzoqqa ishlamoqda

915
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,480
yomonroq.

916
01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:50,500
Lekin bitta masala bor. Bu bitta
ko'p yillar davomida gapirganim

917
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:54,560
va meni bularning o'rtasiga qo'yadi
tergov, va bu autizm.

918
01:00:54,820 --> 01:01:00,440
Va bu tadqiqotda u erda ekanligi ko'rinadi
bilan statistik ahamiyatga ega emas edi

919
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,960
vaktsina-autizm aloqasi.

920
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,880
Va sababini bilmoqchi edim.

921
01:01:04,180 --> 01:01:05,460
Shunga qaramay, autizm ...

922
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,120
Bu neytral.

923
01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:12,560
Bu biz autizm haqida noto'g'ri ekanligimizni anglatadimi?
Mark? Yo'q. Yo'qmi?

924
01:01:13,340 --> 01:01:19,260
Yo'q. Yo'q, o'zgaruvchilar juda ko'p
ishtirok etadi va uni nazorat qilish qiyin.

925
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:24,320
Agar sizda ko'p holatlar bo'lmasa,
autizm bilan bu yerda sodir bo'lgani kabi, qaerda siz

926
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:30,000
Faqatgina 23 ta autizm holati mavjud
emlangan guruh va bir misol

927
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,280
emlanmagan guruhdagi autizm, ya'ni
yetarli emas edi.

928
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,420
haqiqatda qodir bo'lgan holatlar
bor yoki yo'qligini aniqlang

929
01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:43,180
statistik jihatdan sezilarli o'sish sur'ati
autizm.

930
01:01:43,540 --> 01:01:48,040
Shunday qilib, tadqiqot har xil narsalarni ko'rsatsa ham
neyrorivojlanish kasalliklari, qachon u

931
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,980
autizmga keladi, etarli emas edi
bunda autizm tashxisi qo'yilgan bolalar

932
01:01:51,980 --> 01:01:55,860
bu savolga javob berish uchun guruh. Ya'ni
nima uchun bunday tadqiqotlar bo'lishi kerak

933
01:01:55,860 --> 01:01:57,880
yanada kattaroq miqyosda takrorlanadi.

934
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,540
Gap shundaki, signal bor va
signal bu ...

935
01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:06,710
emlanmagan bolalar sog'lom. Bu kerak
juda muhim ijobiy tadqiqot bo'lishi. The

936
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:12,210
Buning aksi bolalardir
emlangan, unchalik yaxshi ko'rinmaydi,

937
01:02:12,330 --> 01:02:14,470
ayniqsa neyropsikiyatrik uchun
buzilishlar.

938
01:02:15,810 --> 01:02:19,270
Birlashma o'lchoviga nazar tashlasak,
va men epidemiologman, men yashayman

939
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:20,770
bu, neytral bitta.

940
01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:22,990
Neytral degani, hech qanday assotsiatsiya bitta emas.

941
01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:25,770
Agar u ikkita bo'lsa, bu ikki barobar borligini anglatadi
xavf.

942
01:02:26,380 --> 01:02:30,280
Biz tasodifiy bo'lmagan ma'lumotlarni bajarayotganimizda,
ayniqsa korporativ ma'lumotlar do'konlaridan,

943
01:02:30,380 --> 01:02:34,100
sizda nima bor, bizda yuqoriroq
chegara. Va yaxshi chegara

944
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:39,180
esda tuting - to'rt. Agar to'rt barobar bo'lsa
Agar biz bo'lsak, ma'lumotlar to'plamidagi xavf ortdi

945
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:44,360
Buni boshqa joyda qilish uchun, deyarli
Albatta, biz uyushma topamiz

946
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:49,480
Bu bizga xavf haqida gapirganda
munosabatlar to'rtdan katta.

947
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,440
Men o'sha kechki ovqatda o'tirib kitob o'qidim
birinchi marta o'qish va o'ylash,

948
01:02:58,540 --> 01:03:02,560
Xudoyim, dunyo buni ko'rishi kerak
o'rganish.

949
01:03:02,980 --> 01:03:09,540
Ammo men doktor Zervosni qanchalik ko'p bosdim
uni nashr etsa, shunchalik uzrli edi.

950
01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:13,080
Menimcha, bu yaxshi o'rganish, lekin u
u uchun cheklovlar yo'q. The

951
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,760
Bunga qarshi argument shu bo'ladi
Bu xuddi shu narsa, retrospektiv, bu

952
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,760
boshqariladigan guruh emas.

953
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,340
Boshqa omillar ham bor.

954
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,120
Bu heterojen guruh
sharoitlar.

955
01:03:24,090 --> 01:03:26,610
Mukammal misol edi
gidroksiklorokin.

956
01:03:27,310 --> 01:03:31,090
Tasodifan shuni emas, balki aytib o'tganman
markazida doktor Zervos edi

957
01:03:31,090 --> 01:03:34,510
Flint, Michigan suv inqirozi, u edi
markazida ham

958
01:03:34,510 --> 01:03:39,930
gidroksiklorokin tadqiqoti o'tkazildi
Ford tomonidan va 50% ga qisqarishini ko'rsatdi

959
01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:43,710
olganlar uchun o'lim
gidroksiklorokin. Va buning uchun u oldi

960
01:03:43,710 --> 01:03:48,710
Toni Fauci tomonidan hujumga uchradi va deyarli
asosiy ommaviy axborot vositalaridagi hamma va

961
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:49,689
tibbiyot dunyosi.

962
01:03:49,690 --> 01:03:50,930
Genri Ford kasalxonasi.

963
01:03:52,140 --> 01:03:55,880
Nashr etilgan tadqiqot a
nazorat qilinmagan retrospektiv kohort

964
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,220
o'rganish. Shunday qilib, bu tadqiqot noto'g'ri tadqiqotdir.

965
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,640
Genri Forddagi PR, ular gag qo'yishdi
menga buyurtma bering. Men gapira olmadim

966
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:09,260
har qanday narsa. Ular menga Mark, shunday deyishdi
nima? Shunday qilib

967
01:04:09,260 --> 01:04:11,280
Siz CNNga kirasiz.

968
01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:12,580
Ular baxtli bo'lardi.

969
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,780
Ular sizni CNNda ko'rishdan xursand bo'lishadi.

970
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,460
Va siz nima his qilayotganingizni aytasiz. Lekin ular
faqat baribir siz aytgan so'zlarni burab ketadi.

971
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,540
va baribir sizni yomon ko'ring.

972
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:26,640
Xo'sh, nima yaxshi? Shunday qilib, men hali ham shunday bo'lishim kerak
o'zimni himoya qila oladi va nima ekanligini aytishi mumkin

973
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,640
noaniqlikdir.

974
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,720
Shuning uchun men o'zimcha o'ylayman, ehtimol
Genri Ford PR to'g'ri edi, bu shunday

975
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,560
baribir buralib qolaman,
sizni yomon ko'ring va siz ishdan bo'shatilasiz. Shunday qilib

976
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,560
bundan nima foyda?

977
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:43,060
Xo'sh, bu bilan nima bo'ladi
xuddi shu narsa, bu kimgadir

978
01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:47,500
qaytib kelishadi va ular qaytib kelishadi
aytish, bilasizmi, o'rganish nuqsonli, kabi

979
01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:48,500
qarshi ...

980
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,780
kerak bo'lgan tarzda qarash
qarash. Bunga qarasak-chi

981
01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:57,280
muhim ilmiy ma'lumotlar sifatida
Garvardda o'qish qanday bo'lishi kerakligi haqida ma'lumot berishi mumkin

982
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,080
Biz ularni shunday qabul qilsak, bajariladimi?

983
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,240
Va keyin ayta olaman: nega?

984
01:05:01,620 --> 01:05:03,100
Chunki bu yerda siyosiy maqsad bor.

985
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,440
Men tushundim. Uning o'z muammolari bor.

986
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:09,400
Har qanday retrospektiv tadqiqot doimo davom etadi
bir xil muammolarga duch kelish.

987
01:05:09,620 --> 01:05:11,280
Bu har doim bir xil bo'ladi
unga hujum qiladi.

988
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:15,500
Retrospektiv uchun cheklovlar mavjud
o'rganish.

989
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:20,120
Shuning uchun biz buni qilishni yaxshi ko'ramiz
iloji bo'lsa, tasodifiy klinik sinovlar

990
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,120
chunki ularda bir xil narsa yo'q
cheklovlar.

991
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Siz tashvishlanishingiz kerak bo'lgan asosiy narsa
haqida retrospektiv tadqiqotlar bilan hisoblanadi

992
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:33,500
o'rtasidagi farqli narsalar
siz o'zingiz bilan solishtirayotgan guruhlar

993
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:35,420
hisob-kitob qila olmaydi.

994
01:05:35,660 --> 01:05:39,300
Agar siz mukammal o'rganishni istasangiz, a
platsebo-nazorat ostidagi sinov. Har qanday

995
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:41,660
retrospektiv tadqiqot olib boriladi
undagi kamchiliklar.

996
01:05:41,870 --> 01:05:45,810
Ammo bu tadqiqotda ular bir nuqtani ko'rsatdilar
ulardagi ko'plab kamchiliklarni bartaraf etish

997
01:05:45,810 --> 01:05:46,810
o'zlarini topdilar.

998
01:05:47,230 --> 01:05:51,050
Agar kimdir tadqiqotni tanqid qilgan bo'lsa, men
tadqiqotchi mumkin bo'lgan masalalarni o'ylab ko'ring

999
01:05:51,050 --> 01:05:57,050
oshirish har xil bo'lardi
guruhlar uchun kuzatuv davomiyligi

1000
01:05:57,050 --> 01:06:01,010
yo'q olgan bolalar o'rtasida
vaktsinalar va olingan bolalar

1001
01:06:01,010 --> 01:06:04,330
vaktsinalar. Mualliflar aslida shunday qilishgan
sezgirlik tahlili.

1002
01:06:05,210 --> 01:06:10,490
ular tahlilni qaerdan cheklashdi
kamida ma'lum bo'lgan bolalar

1003
01:06:10,490 --> 01:06:14,370
kuzatuv miqdori. Ular chegaralanganda
ikkalasi uchun ham kuzatuv vaqti

1004
01:06:14,370 --> 01:06:20,030
emlangan va emlanmagan biriga
yiliga nisbatan 2,75 baravar yuqori

1005
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:23,810
emlanganlarda surunkali kasallik.
Va ular buni uch yil bilan chegaralaganlarida,

1006
01:06:23,930 --> 01:06:27,610
bu surunkali ko'rsatkichdan 3,38 baravar ko'p
emlanganlarda kasallik.

1007
01:06:27,830 --> 01:06:31,370
Va ular buni besh yil bilan cheklaganlarida,
to'rt barobar ko'pdir.

1008
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,240
Shunday qilib, ular cheklash uchun nima qilishmasin
kuzatish vaqti, tadqiqot natijalari

1009
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,240
o'zgarmadi.

1010
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:42,600
Natijalar boshqacha ekanligini ko'rsatadi
kuzatish davri, albatta, yo'q edi

1011
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:48,120
tadqiqotlarga sezilarli ta'sir ko'rsatdi
tekshirayotganliklarini so'rashdi.

1012
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:54,780
Yana bir tashvish shundaki, faqat bor
qanchalik ehtimoli bo'yicha katta farqlar

1013
01:06:54,780 --> 01:07:01,350
vaktsina olmagan bolalar
bilan solishtirganda sog'liqni saqlash xizmatiga murojaat qilishlari kerak edi

1014
01:07:01,350 --> 01:07:02,710
vaktsina olgan bolalar.

1015
01:07:03,070 --> 01:07:08,610
Boshqacha qilib aytganda, farqlar bo'lishi mumkin
Biz tadqiqotda faqat to'g'ri kelishini aniqlaymiz

1016
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:14,310
bu bolalar bo'lganligi uchun
kamroq ko'rishadi va shuning uchun ular olishmoqda

1017
01:07:14,310 --> 01:07:15,310
kamroq tashxislar?

1018
01:07:16,270 --> 01:07:21,510
Buni hal qilish uchun ular cheklangan
qilmagan bolalar aholisi

1019
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:28,180
bo'lgan bolalarga har qanday vaktsinalarni olish
kamida bir nechta tibbiy yordamga ega edi

1020
01:07:28,180 --> 01:07:33,760
tashriflar. Va hatto bu sezgirlikda ham
tahlil, asosiy topilmalar saqlanib qoldi.

1021
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:40,160
Ushbu tadqiqotda ular moslashdilar
chalkashtirib yuboradi. Chalg'ituvchilar yosh bo'lishi mumkin,

1022
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:46,140
ijtimoiy-iqtisodiy holati, jinsi, irqi,
etnik guruh va texnikadan foydalangan

1023
01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:50,920
Koks proportsional xavflar deb ataladi, bu
boshqa barcha omillarni teng tutish demakdir.

1024
01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:55,360
o'rtasida qanday bog'liqlik bor
qiziqish omili va natijasi?

1025
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Ular uchun moslashtirilgandan keyin ham
bu xususiyatlarning ta'siri bo'ldi

1026
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:01,760
aslida juda kichik.

1027
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,660
Men buni aslida kutgandim
tuzatishlar, albatta, kuchli bo'lar edi

1028
01:08:05,660 --> 01:08:09,380
ta'sir qildi, lekin ular aslida yo'q edi. Va
juda ko'p sezgirlik qilganingizda

1029
01:08:09,380 --> 01:08:13,340
tahlil va siz ko'rayotgan narsa yo'q
ko'p narsani o'zgartiring, bu xotirjam bo'lishi mumkin. The

1030
01:08:13,340 --> 01:08:18,800
mualliflar bilan yaxshi ish qilishdi
ularda mavjud bo'lgan ma'lumotlar. ko'rganman

1031
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,300
vaktsinalar bo'yicha tadqiqotlar yaxshi nashr etilgan
ancha zaif bo'lgan jurnallar

1032
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:24,300
sifat.

1033
01:08:24,780 --> 01:08:30,640
Sizning tadqiqotingiz shuni ko'rsatadi, shunday emasmi
muhim?

1034
01:08:31,779 --> 01:08:34,899
Ha, muhim. Siz kimligingizni bilasiz
yuborish kerakmi? Bu men aytganim

1035
01:08:34,899 --> 01:08:35,899
bir oz oldin siz.

1036
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:41,180
Chunki men buni qilmoqchi emasman, chunki
Men Diddy kabi bo'lishni xohlamayman yoki ...

1037
01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:45,359
Men Makkallo kabi azob chekishni xohlamayman
qildi.

1038
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:52,100
Lekin bu erda, men uni qabul qilish uchun minnatdorchilik bildiraman
bu, bilasizmi, va buning uchun turib.

1039
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:53,319
Lekin, um...

1040
01:08:53,690 --> 01:08:55,470
Men shunchaki buni qilmoqchi emasman. men emas
qilmoqchi.

1041
01:08:57,290 --> 01:09:00,490
Har qanday boshqa iqlimda, muntazam ravishda
iqlim, siz ushbu tadqiqotni qo'ygan bo'lardingiz

1042
01:09:00,490 --> 01:09:05,210
xuddi shunday bo'ladi, shunday emasmi? Agar biz bo'lmaganimizda
bu tsenzura dunyosida... men qo'ygan bo'lardim

1043
01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:08,250
xuddi shunday bo'ladi. Siz xohlaysizmi? qo'ygan bo'lardim
xuddi shunday bo'ladi.

1044
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:14,130
Men ishimni tugatmoqchiman, sen
bilish, xalqaro ish qilish.

1045
01:09:14,430 --> 01:09:18,649
Hech narsa qilishni istamasligimning bir qismi
undan hech narsa chiqmasligini

1046
01:09:18,649 --> 01:09:21,689
Men ishimni yo'qotishdan tashqari, men buni istardim
aksincha.

1047
01:09:22,109 --> 01:09:26,689
Qarang, men bunga ochiqman. Biz shu yerdamiz, chunki
Men sizni to'liq hurmat qilaman va tan olaman

1048
01:09:26,689 --> 01:09:31,069
xavf, dedim, senga aytdim,
Agar siz ushbu tadqiqotni qilsangiz,

1049
01:09:31,950 --> 01:09:35,210
Men buni takrorlayman, chunki men
Yodingizda bo'lsin, dedim, agar siz o'qisangiz,

1050
01:09:35,390 --> 01:09:38,850
olov ostida qolasiz. Siz
dedi, men bunga ahamiyat bermayman. Men hammasi

1051
01:09:38,850 --> 01:09:41,810
ma'lumotlar haqida va men nafaqaga chiqmoqchiman
baribir. Bu tom ma'noda siz aytgan narsa.

1052
01:09:42,370 --> 01:09:46,210
Ha. Shunday qilib, sizning energiyangiz aniq
shunga qarab o'zgardi. Energiya o'zgardi.

1053
01:09:46,910 --> 01:09:48,350
Keling, buni shunday qo'yay.

1054
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,480
Men butun faoliyatimni chiziqqa qo'ydim
chunki men muammoni ko'rdim. Chunki nima? I

1055
01:09:54,480 --> 01:10:00,060
ta'sir qiladigan muammoni ko'rdi
Amerika va dunyo bolalari. Biz

1056
01:10:00,060 --> 01:10:03,660
haqida jiddiy o'sib borayotgan muammo bor
immunitet kasalligi, surunkali kasallik.

1057
01:10:04,220 --> 01:10:09,200
Men vaktsina deb aytmayapman
faqat sabab, lekin men bu dasturni aytyapman

1058
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,780
jiddiy ish kerak.

1059
01:10:11,180 --> 01:10:15,260
Biz bo'lganimizda sog'lig'imiz ancha yaxshi edi
10, 20 ta vaktsina olish.

1060
01:10:16,030 --> 01:10:20,510
72 dozada 54 ta tortishishda bu aniq
biz farzandlarimizni qilmayapmiz

1061
01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:22,050
sog'lomroq. Ular noto'g'ri yo'l tutishmoqda
yo'nalishi.

1062
01:10:23,970 --> 01:10:27,390
Agar ushbu dasturni amalga oshirishning bir usuli bo'lsa
yaxshiroq, men ishonaman, bilasizmi, men ayting

1063
01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:31,670
Men yo'q qilishga harakat qilayotganimni hech qachon aytmaganman
sayyoramizdan vaktsinalar, lekin biz bor

1064
01:10:31,670 --> 01:10:36,110
autizm darajasi hozirda, 26dan 1,
28?

1065
01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:38,310
Bizda jiddiy...

1066
01:10:39,380 --> 01:10:42,600
Men aslida bunga qo'shilaman. bor
biz buni boshqacha qilishimiz mumkin.

1067
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,240
To'g'ri, lekin men bo'lsam, u erga qanday boramiz
nihoyat, qanday imkoniyatlar bor?

1068
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:50,540
Men sizga o'xshagan odamni topaman
nufuz.

1069
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:56,480
Agar men o'qishni chiqara olmasam, unda nima bo'ladi
har bir bola uchun umid bor

1070
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:58,700
kelajak? Men ular uchun hech narsa qila olmayman.

1071
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,180
Rahbarda o‘zgarish bo‘lmasa,
hech narsa bo'lmaydi.

1072
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:06,420
Xuddi shunday bitta tadqiqotni nashr qilish.

1073
01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:15,840
bu kabi, bo'lmaydi... Bu
aslida qilish to'g'ri. men yo'q

1074
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,340
bu to'g'ri emasligini aytmoqchiman
qilmoq. Bu to'g'ri, lekin men

1075
01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:24,300
faqat xohlamayman ... Va men xohlamayman
etarli muammolar bor, lekin men bor

1076
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:26,300
Men allaqachon shunday narsalar etarli
bilan shug'ullanish.

1077
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,260
Men xohlamayman... Kutib turing. To'xtab tur. men shunchaki
shuni aytmoqchiman.

1078
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:35,780
Bu Galiley lahzasi. ishonaman
bu hamma narsadan ko'ra ko'proq hayotni o'zgartiradi

1079
01:11:35,780 --> 01:11:40,620
bor. Vaksinani tuzatib olsak
dastur, u shunchaki millionlarni o'zgartirmaydi

1080
01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:43,060
Amerikadagi bolalar hayoti. Bu
butun dunyo bo'ylab o'zgarishlar.

1081
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:48,140
Siz o'zgarishlarning otasi bo'lasiz
tizim.

1082
01:11:49,020 --> 01:11:50,020
Bu tarixiy.

1083
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,600
Va buning uchun men siz bilan ishlashni xohlayman.

1084
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,180
Shuning uchun biz shu yerdamiz.

1085
01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:56,140
Ha. Yo'q, nima deyotganingizni tushunaman.

1086
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,180
Bizda shunday narsa qilish qobiliyati bor
hech kim orzu qilmagan.

1087
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,060
Agar siz bo'lmasangiz, unda kim?

1088
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:08,280
Negadir bolg'acha urish har doim bo'lgan
men tomon kel. Yo‘q, men bunga chiday olmayman.

1089
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:11,760
Men haqiqatan ham qila olmayman. Yo'q, men yaxshi emasman
odam. Men buni uddalay olmayman.

1090
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:16,560
Men yaxshi odam emasman, lekin unday emasman
qilmoqchi. Men buni qilmoqchi emasman.

1091
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,520
Sizda tashvishlanadigan juda ko'p narsa bor
haqida.

1092
01:12:23,740 --> 01:12:27,280
Ha, men shuni aytmoqchimanki, haqiqatan ham
hissiy.

1093
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,960
Bilasizmi, u shunchaki ketadi
uni qismlarga ajrating.

1094
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:35,800
Menimcha, kimdir bunga qarashi mumkin va
kabi bo'l, bu vijdonsiz. Qanday mumkin

1095
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,779
u?

1096
01:12:36,780 --> 01:12:41,640
Va menimcha, u shunday qila oladi
Biz hammamiz buni qila oladigan tarzda, siz

1097
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,300
bilingki, biz xohlamagan narsalarni qilmaslik kabi
qilish - biz faqat o'zimizni ishontiramiz, siz

1098
01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:48,640
bilaman, u shunday deyapti, bunday emas
masala. Bu bitta tadqiqot. U qimirlamaydi

1099
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:49,640
igna.

1100
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,180
Bu men uchun juda ko'p. Men qila olmayman. Va, siz
biling, ehtimol u haqdir. Balki shundaydir

1101
01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:55,139
uning uchun juda ko'p.

1102
01:12:55,140 --> 01:12:57,660
Tadqiqot ko'rishi juda muhim
kun nuri.

1103
01:12:58,110 --> 01:13:04,170
Ilmiy adabiyotlarda va uchun
ilm-fan taraqqiyoti bizda bo'lishi kerak

1104
01:13:04,170 --> 01:13:09,150
muvozanat. Har doim ijobiy va salbiy tomonlar mavjud
hamma narsaga.

1105
01:13:09,470 --> 01:13:14,730
Qachonki bizda chuqur diniy bor
vaktsinalar foydasiga noto'g'ri munosabat,

1106
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:20,790
biz muvozanatni yo'qotdik. Va biz yutqazganimizda
muvozanat, butun ilmiy

1107
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:26,530
korxona izdan chiqib ketadi. Va qachon
sodir bo'lsa, katta populyatsiyalar zarar ko'radi.

1108
01:13:27,070 --> 01:13:31,430
Men o'zimga savol bermay qo'ya olmayman
savol, qancha bola azoblanadi

1109
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:34,790
surunkali kasallik, ular, ehtimol
bunda azob chekish kerak emas edi

1110
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:35,890
ma'lumot bormi?

1111
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:40,170
Men ko'p bolalar bilan muomala qilaman
neyrorivojlanish nogironligi va

1112
01:13:40,170 --> 01:13:43,790
nevropsikiyatrik kasalliklar va ularning
hayotlari va ularning oilalari hayoti

1113
01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:50,230
jahannam. Va men juda ko'p ota-onalarni bilaman
har xil ayblarga duchor bo'ling. Ota-onalar

1114
01:13:50,230 --> 01:13:54,330
kimda salbiy reaktsiyalar bo'lgan yoki kimlar
neyrorivojlanish regressiyasiga guvoh bo'ldi

1115
01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:57,550
emlash bilan bog'liq holda, ular
vayron bo'lgan.

1116
01:13:58,010 --> 01:14:04,750
Menga juda ko'p onalar aytgan edi, mening
bola men tufayli shunday.

1117
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:09,230
Mening qo'limda men ularga shunday qildim.

1118
01:14:10,350 --> 01:14:16,630
O'ylaymanki, biz o'zimizni butunlay yo'q qilamiz
umumiy salomatlikni buzish orqali kelajak

1119
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:19,690
bizning eng qimmatli boyligimiz
bolalar.

1120
01:14:19,930 --> 01:14:21,770
Bu haqiqat yoki yo'qligini bilishimiz kerak.

1121
01:14:22,010 --> 01:14:27,130
Biz axloqiy va axloqiy jihatdan majburiymiz
ushbu tadqiqotni takrorlash uchun.

1122
01:14:27,580 --> 01:14:33,580
yana va yana va yana bilib oling
agar bu to'g'ri bo'lsa va bu to'g'ri bo'lsa.

1123
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:40,180
Biz .. qilishimiz kerak. Bu o'rganish haqiqatdir
ko'rib chiqilmagan va ko'rmagan

1124
01:14:40,180 --> 01:14:42,420
e'lon qilingani juda tashvishlidir.

1125
01:14:42,700 --> 01:14:46,920
Bu muhim bilim va boshqalar
sog'liqni saqlash tizimlari, albatta, kerak

1126
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,500
tahlilni takrorlang.

1127
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:53,940
Bu savol haqiqatan ham bo'lishi kerak
tekshirildi. Bu juda muhim tadqiqot

1128
01:14:53,940 --> 01:14:58,640
savol. Men sizni chaqiraman, ha, siz
Shifokorlar, siz tadqiqotchilar, buni qiling

1129
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,080
tadqiqot. Ma'lumotlar to'plamida toping,
Sizning tizimingizda bo'lganlar

1130
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,600
emlanmagan va ularni bilan solishtiring
emlangan kogorta.

1131
01:15:05,900 --> 01:15:10,040
Bu bitta ma'lumotlar to'plami. Siz qila olasiz
buni yana takrorlang. Boshqalar ham bor

1132
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,040
tutqun to'lovchi tizimlari.

1133
01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:14,360
Kaiser Permanente Janubiy bo'lsin
Kaliforniya buni qiladi.

1134
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,660
Va Garvard Pilgrim tizimiga ruxsat bering
Boston buni qilsin.

1135
01:15:17,980 --> 01:15:22,660
Va atrofdagi barcha boshqa sog'liqni saqlash tizimlari
mamlakat. Va, ehtimol, hatto CDC bilan

1136
01:15:22,660 --> 01:15:23,660
VSD.

1137
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:29,300
Va bu bilan biz aslida boshlashimiz mumkin
bu muammoni hal qilish

1138
01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:34,540
vaktsinalar sabab bo'lishi mumkin. Agar bu natijalar
amal qiladi, bu mutlaq dengiz

1139
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:40,060
haqidagi tushunchamizdagi o'zgarishlar
maqsaddan tashqari va o'ziga xos bo'lmagan ta'sirlar

1140
01:15:40,060 --> 01:15:46,680
emlash. Va biz majbur bo'lamiz
yo'limizni qayta ko'rib chiqing

1141
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:47,680
emlash dasturi.

1142
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,940
Bu bizni to'xtatish va to'xtatish xati
Genri uchun advokatlardan olingan

1143
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:00,940
Ford Health.

1144
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,660
Bu maktub meni shunga ishontiradi
ular bizning ozod etishimizni xohlamaydilar

1145
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:05,559
bu film.

1146
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:10,100
Maktubda Genri Ford bizni ayblaydi
deb aytgani uchun tuhmat

1147
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:14,040
nashr etilmagan tadqiqot topshirilmagan
natijalari tufayli nashr etildi

1148
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,800
o'rganish. Ularning ta'kidlashicha, buning sababi
o'qish uchun hech qachon topshirilmagan

1149
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,840
nashr edi, iqtibos, tufayli
undagi jiddiy va jiddiy kamchiliklar

1150
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:22,840
ma'lumotlar va metodologiya.

1151
01:16:23,530 --> 01:16:27,130
Va u yaqinlashmagani uchun
qattiq ilmiy bilan uchrashish

1152
01:16:27,130 --> 01:16:30,250
standartlari Genri Ford salomatligi va uning
tadqiqotchilar talab qiladi.

1153
01:16:30,690 --> 01:16:35,070
Ammo biz doktor Markusdan eshitdik
Zervos, bu borada bosh muallif

1154
01:16:35,070 --> 01:16:39,850
nashr etilmagan tadqiqot va dunyoda yetakchi
Genrixdagi yuqumli kasalliklar bo'yicha mutaxassis

1155
01:16:39,850 --> 01:16:45,750
Ford. U menga tadqiqotga ishonishini aytdi
yaxshi tadqiqot edi va u uni nashr etardi

1156
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:51,190
xuddi shunday. Faqat bitta muammo. Agar u
uni nashr etadi, u shunday bo'lishiga ishonadi

1157
01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:52,330
karerasining oxiri.

1158
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,920
U tugatgan bo'lardi.

1159
01:16:54,220 --> 01:16:56,460
Mening emas, balki uning so'zlari.

1160
01:16:56,780 --> 01:17:01,300
Endi doktor Zervos uning yonida tursa ham
o'rganish, bu mukammal ekanligini anglatadimi?

1161
01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:02,940
o'qish? Albatta yo'q.

1162
01:17:03,220 --> 01:17:07,100
Genri Ford o'qigan deb ayta olamizmi
emlashlar sabab bo'layotganini isbotlaydi

1163
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:08,100
surunkali kasallik epidemiyasi?

1164
01:17:08,620 --> 01:17:10,000
Yo'q, qila olmaymiz.

1165
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:16,180
Retrospektiv tadqiqot buni tasdiqlamaydi
sabab-oqibat. Biz shuni aytishimiz mumkinki, biz

1166
01:17:16,180 --> 01:17:21,220
signal, qizil ko'rsatayotganiga ishoning
fan tomonidan havoda hilpiragan bayroq

1167
01:17:21,220 --> 01:17:24,790
usuli. Xyuston, haqiqiy bo'lishi mumkin
bu erda muammo.

1168
01:17:25,450 --> 01:17:29,410
Endilikda bu tashvish yanada kuchaydi
bu nashr etilmagan tadqiqot haqiqatdir

1169
01:17:29,410 --> 01:17:30,410
yolg'iz qolmaslik.

1170
01:17:30,570 --> 01:17:31,950
Bu anomaliya emas.

1171
01:17:32,250 --> 01:17:36,750
Endi u boshqa bir qancha tadqiqotlar bilan bir qatorda
ularning hammasi o'xshash signallarni ko'rsatdi.

1172
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:41,710
Shunday qilib, albatta hujumlar bo'ladi
mumkin bo'lgan ushbu tadqiqotning cheklovlari

1173
01:17:41,710 --> 01:17:45,290
ko'pgina retrospektiv tadqiqotlarda uchraydi.
Va biz bu cheklovlarni tan olamiz.

1174
01:17:45,710 --> 01:17:50,550
Ammo haqiqatan ham buni rad etishning yagona yo'li
qarshi emlash o'z qilish

1175
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:51,750
emlanmagan o'rganish.

1176
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,380
va bizni noto'g'ri isbotlang.

1177
01:17:53,940 --> 01:17:57,980
Men doktor Zervosga ishonaman
qilishga urindi va muvaffaqiyatsizlikka uchradi.

1178
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:03,500
Ammo ota-onalar sifatida bu filmni to'g'ri ko'rishadi
Endi siz o'zingizdan juda so'rashingiz kerak

1179
01:18:03,500 --> 01:18:04,500
muhim savol.

1180
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:09,800
Nima uchun bitta sog'liqni saqlash agentligi yo'q yoki
dunyodagi eng yirik tibbiyot muassasasi

1181
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,940
bitta singl ishlab chiqarishga muvaffaq bo'ldi
to'liq emlangan

1182
01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:18,520
emlanmagan tadqiqot shuni ko'rsatadiki
emlangan bolalar sog'lommi?

1183
01:18:19,130 --> 01:18:21,850
Butun maqsad bu emasmidi
vaktsina dasturi?

1184
01:18:22,170 --> 01:18:23,610
Farzandlarimizni sog'lom qilish uchunmi?

1185
01:18:24,170 --> 01:18:29,130
Va bu noqulay bo'lishi mumkin bo'lsa-da
deb aytgan har bir kishi uchun o'rganish

1186
01:18:29,130 --> 01:18:32,230
emlash dasturi xavfsiz edi, bir bor
yorqin tomoni.

1187
01:18:32,730 --> 01:18:38,310
Hozirgacha ushbu tadqiqotlarning har birida,
bir guruh bolalar bor

1188
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:43,390
gullab-yashnagan, ko'pchilikdan azob chekmagan
Amerikani qiynayotgan kasalliklar haqida

1189
01:18:43,390 --> 01:18:44,390
bolalar.

1190
01:18:44,590 --> 01:18:48,750
deyarli har qanday holatlari bor
neyrorivojlanish kasalliklari yoki

1191
01:18:48,750 --> 01:18:53,910
otoimmün kasallik, ular a da yashaydi
salomatlik bilan gullab-yashnayotgan dunyo

1192
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:58,330
chunki ularning ota-onalari a
turli yo'nalish.

1193
01:18:58,970 --> 01:19:01,350
Endi sizda ko'proq ma'lumotlar mavjud.

1194
01:19:01,950 --> 01:19:05,070
Sizga xabar berildi. Nima ketyapsan
bu haqda nima qilish kerak?

1195
01:19:05,650 --> 01:19:08,270
Bu tanlov sizniki.